- From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:05:02 +0000
- To: SDW WG Public List <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
The minutes of the first SSN sub group call are at
https://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes
With a text snapshot below...
SDW SSN Sub Group
08 Mar 2016
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-irc
Attendees
Present
Kerry, RaulGarciaCastro, DanhLePhuoc, ahaller2
Regrets
Oscar, Scott
Chair
kerry
Scribe
DanhLePhuoc, RaulGarciaCastro
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Patent call
2. [5]Welcome to SSN-subgroup meetings
3. [6]FPWD
4. [7]Webprotege
5. [8]Editor’s draft
6. [9]Modularization
* [10]Summary of Action Items
* [11]Summary of Resolutions
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<kerry> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this
channel.
<kerry> trackbot, this will be sdw
<trackbot> Sorry, kerry, I don't understand 'trackbot, this
will be sdw'. Please refer to
<[12]http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
[12] http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc
<kerry> scribe: DanhLePhuoc
<kerry> scribeNick: RaulGarciaCastro
<kerry> scribe: RaulGarciaCastro
Patent call
<kerry> [13]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
[13] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
Welcome to SSN-subgroup meetings
kerry: Not many people around
FPWD
kerry: We need to publish the FPWD soon
... … end of March, 1st week April
... … that is our first big goal
... … we could publish SSN as it is now
... … being ambitious, also modularization would be good
... … it is important that the W3C staff sees some progress
RaulGarciaCastro: It would be nice to also include in the FPWD
what we plan to deliver by the end of our work
<kerry> +1
<DanhLePhuoc> +1
+1
kerry: We can talk about this next meeting (with more people)
... … with the other editors
Webprotege
[14]http://webprotege.stanford.edu/#Edit:projectId=dc983c6a-c14
4-4d5a-a2a2-1f8d25d1ad54
[14]
http://webprotege.stanford.edu/#Edit:projectId=dc983c6a-c144-4d5a-a2a2-1f8d25d1ad54
kerry: People should have rights to edit the ontology
DanhLePhuoc: Not everyone needs to have editing permissions to
comment
RaulGarciaCastro: If we modularise the ontology at the end we
will have different projects
kerry: Yes, I think it was that way
DanhLePhuoc: Right now there are two projects, not sure how to
link them
kerry: Where are the axioms in Webprotege?
<DanhLePhuoc>
[15]http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide
[15] http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide
DanhLePhuoc: In the OWLEntityDescriptionBrowser tab
<DanhLePhuoc>
[16]http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide#T
he_OWL_Entity_Description_Editor
[16]
http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtegeUsersGuide#The_OWL_Entity_Description_Editor
DanhLePhuoc: … and Editor
<kerry> please look at user guid and have a go
<ahaller2> apologies for being late, what is the webex link?
<kerry> Armin, can pls give raul permission to edit on
webprotege!
<kerry>
[17]https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20
160308
[17] https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:SSN-Telecon20160308
[18]https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m7fa998124d164729c095b
8c83a45f52d
[18]
https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m7fa998124d164729c095b8c83a45f52d
<ahaller2> yes, what is his username?
<kerry> armin, the webex link on that page works
sdwssn
rgcmme
that’s my user name in Webprotege
Editor’s draft
<kerry> [19]http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/
[19] http://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn/
kerry: ahaller2 already has editing permissions in github
Modularization
ahaller2: We have agreed to remove dolce
... … do we need further modules?
<kerry> agree -- no precedent for this
ahaller2: … will splitting the ontology make it more usable?
<kerry> also agree -- it is no that much
kerry: multiple namespaces is annoying and you have to
constantly look for things you need in other places
RaulGarciaCastro: we could analyse the use cases and see what
extent of the ontology is expected to be used
ahaller2: All modules, even if they have different namespaces,
could be in the same file
DanhLePhuoc: it’s not necessary to split everything but we can
have different profiles
kerry: some use cases deal with observations, others with
platforms…
... … we could do some profiling
... … we can put the current modules in the W3C namespace
RaulGarciaCastro: Once we define some URIs, people will start
using them
ahaller2: I’m concerned of publishing something not finished
+1
<DanhLePhuoc> +1
RaulGarciaCastro: Putting the modules proposal in the FPWD
would make no harm
... … and if everyone agrees we publish it
... … and if there are concerns we wait
kerry: not just the modules, the complete modules
... the ontologies themselves
DanhLePhuoc: Like in software, people could use profiles and
look for the origin of the different ontology components
I’m not sure I got well this last part
kerry: People could simply use the vocabulary terms of the
ontology, but it would be nice if reasoning can also be used
... dereferencing the ontology terms should lead to the
ontology
... … we can test this with the current splitted version of the
ontology
... … and implementing content negotiation
ahaller2: It would be nice to have it to play
... … multiple modules will also lead people to use incorrect
namespaces
kerry: We can do that and then discuss up to what extent
modularize
<kerry> ACTION: ahaller2 to get the 2 ontology modules on w3c
namespace with phila, to experimentation [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this
channel.
kerry: if anyone wants to chair these meetings, just tell
... … will be happy if people gives suggestions on topics for
the meeting
Bye
<kerry> rrsagent. draft minutes
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: ahaller2 to get the 2 ontology modules on w3c
namespace with phila, to experimentation [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01]
[21] http://www.w3.org/2016/03/08-sdwssn-minutes.html#action01
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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