Re: Eurocentrism, incorrect unit abbreviations, and proprietary Royalist Engish (sic) terms

Github pull request (#2003
<https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/pull/2003>) created to update the
description of CampGround and CampingPitch.

*CampGround:*

A camping site, campsite, or Campground <http://localhost:8080/Campground> is
a place used for overnight stay in the outdoors, typically containing
individual CampingPitch <http://localhost:8080/CampingPitch> locations.

In British English a campsite is an area, usually divided into a number of
pitches, where people can camp overnight using tents or camper vans or
caravans; this British English use of the word is synonymous with the
American English expression campground. In American English the term
campsite generally means an area where an individual, family, group, or
military unit can pitch a tent or park a camper; a campground may contain
many campsites (Source: Wikipedia see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campsite
).

See also the dedicated document on the use of schema.org for marking up
hotels and other forms of accommodations
<http://localhost:8080/docs/hotels.html>.


*CampingPitch:*

A CampingPitch <http://localhost:8080/CampingPitch> is an individual place
for overnight stay in the outdoors, typically being part of a larger
camping site, or Campground <http://localhost:8080/Campground>.

In British English a campsite, or campground, is an area, usually divided
into a number of pitches, where people can camp overnight using tents or
camper vans or caravans; this British English use of the word is synonymous
with the American English expression campground. In American English the
term campsite generally means an area where an individual, family, group,
or military unit can pitch a tent or parks a camper; a campground may
contain many campsites. (Source: Wikipedia see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campsite).

See also the dedicated document on the use of schema.org for marking up
hotels and other forms of accommodations
<http://localhost:8080/docs/hotels.html>.


~Richard.

Richard Wallis
Founder, Data Liberate
http://dataliberate.com
Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
Twitter: @rjw

On 5 July 2018 at 19:01, Pete Rivett <pete.rivett@adaptive.com> wrote:

> The proposal suggests, but does not make explicit, that in American
> English campsite is a synonym for CampingPitch.
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> Nitpick – there is a superfluous “s” in the following:
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> means an area where an individual, family, group, or military unit can
> pitch a tent or parks a camper;
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> Pete
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> *From:* Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@dataliberate.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 5, 2018 6:58 AM
> *To:* Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* schema.org Mailing List <public-schemaorg@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Eurocentrism, incorrect unit abbreviations, and
> proprietary Royalist Engish (sic) terms
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> @Thad & others,
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> The Campground <https://schema.org/Campground> type has the following
> description:
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> A camping site, campsite, or campground is a place used for overnight stay
> in the outdoors. In British English a campsite is an area, usually divided
> into a number of pitches, where people can camp overnight using tents or
> camper vans or caravans; this British English use of the word is synonymous
> with the American English expression campground. In American English the
> term campsite generally means an area where an individual, family, group,
> or military unit can pitch a tent or parks a camper; a campground may
> contain many campsites (Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campsite).
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> Which I think covers things.
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> Whereas CampingPitch <https://schema.org/CampingPitch> has this:
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> A camping pitch is an individual place for overnight stay in the outdoors,
> typically being part of a larger camping site.
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> Which, under the current discussion, is a little lacking.
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> I therefore propose this:
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> A [[CampingPitch]] is an individual place for overnight stay in the
> outdoors, typically being part of a larger [[Campground]].
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> In British English a campsite, or campground, is an area, usually divided
> into a number of pitches, where people can camp overnight using tents or
> camper vans or caravans; this British English use of the word is synonymous
> with the American English expression campground. In American English the
> term *campsite* generally means an area where an individual, family,
> group, or military unit can pitch a tent or parks a camper; a campground
> may contain many campsites.
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> (Source: Wikipedia see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campsite).
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> Thoughts/comments?
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> ~Richard.
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> Richard Wallis
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> Founder, Data Liberate
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> http://dataliberate.com
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> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis
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> Twitter: @rjw
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> On 5 July 2018 at 14:12, Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Since I care more about "Getting things done"...
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> As to the Campsite/Campground ... the USA and its government is fairly
> clear and standardized on a Campground being the larger area and individual
> reservable "pitchs" as being called "campsites".  The NPS.gov has the data
> available as well with annual campsite bookings.  Here's one example:
> https://www.nps.gov/maca/planyourvisit/campgrounds.htm
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> And Texas and other states started "campsite" or "camping pitch" specific
> booking system just this year. https://tpwd.texas.gov/state-
> parks/park-reservation-information/site-specific-booking
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> So we probably could make mention about "campsite" and "campground" in the
> definition to improve things.  So let's at least do that to make things
> clear on both sides. :-)
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> A camping pitch *(in the USA, a campsite)* is an individual place for
> overnight stay in the outdoors, typically being part of a larger camping
> site *or campground.*
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> *@Richard* - would you mind doing that to improve the definition a bit ?
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> -Thad
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