Re: schema-course-extend: Organizations providing and offering course

On 01/06/16 15:47, Richard Wallis wrote:
> provider <http://schema.org/provider> is already a well used property 
> in Schema.
>
>     “The service provider, service operator, or service performer; the
>     goods producer. Another party (a seller) may offer those services
>     or goods on behalf of the provider. A provider may also serve as
>     the seller.”
>
>
> It’s use on CreativeWork may help in the discussion here.
>

Perfect. I had missed that. I think "service provider, service operator" 
covers what we need.

Thanks. Phil



> ~Richard.
>
> Richard Wallis
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>
> On 1 June 2016 at 15:14, Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net 
> <mailto:sasutton@dublincore.net>> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk
>     <mailto:phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>> wrote:
>     ...
>
>
>         Richard has suggested using the existing offeredBy [2]
>         property to indicate who is making the course available.
>         "Both Course and CourseInstance inherit the offers property
>         which would be used to identify individual Offer(s).  Offer
>         has the offeredBy property to reference the offering
>         organisation/institution."
>         [https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-schema-course-extend/2016May/0006.html
>         RJW]
>
>         That seems sound, but I do have a concern that it ends up
>         being quite complex, is anyone going to argue for the simpler
>         option of extending the range of offeredBy so that it can be
>         used on Course & CourseInstance directly?
>
>
>     Phil,I think you meant extending the domain and not the range of
>     offeredBy? A legitimate, useful argument can be made for extending
>     the domain of offeredBy to include Course. An assertion that a
>     Course is offeredBy a particular Organization or set of
>     Organizations would be useful without reference to a particular
>     Offer. I have some difficulty with such an extension to
>     CourseInstance because it is, in a way, a particular offer (lower
>     case).
>
>
>
>         Neither schema.org/offeredBy <http://schema.org/offeredBy> nor
>         schema.org/creator <http://schema.org/creator> fully cover
>         what it means for an organization to provide a course. I
>         propose a new property to cover this:
>
>         provider, a property of Course with expect range Organization,
>         being the Organization which is responsible for providing the
>         educational input for the course, e.g. providing content,
>         educational events, assessments, accreditation etc.
>
>
>     Would a provider property solve the "endorsed" aspect of
>     provenance noted.
>
>
>
>         I have started a wiki page for this requirement [3] and will
>         work up an example or two for it.
>
>
>         Phil
>
>         1.
>         https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Outline_use_cases#use_case_1.4_refining_UC1_by_provenance
>         2. http://schema.org/offeredBy
>         3.
>         https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Organizations_providing_and_offering_course
>
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>         Phil Barker           @philbarker
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>         Heriot-Watt University
>
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>
>


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