Re: schema-course-extend: Organizations providing and offering course

provider <http://schema.org/provider> is already a well used property in
Schema.

“The service provider, service operator, or service performer; the goods
producer. Another party (a seller) may offer those services or goods on
behalf of the provider. A provider may also serve as the seller.”


It’s use on CreativeWork may help in the discussion here.

~Richard.

Richard Wallis
Founder, Data Liberate
http://dataliberate.com
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On 1 June 2016 at 15:14, Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote:
> ...
>
>>
>> Richard has suggested using the existing  offeredBy [2] property to
>> indicate who is making the course available.
>> "Both Course and CourseInstance inherit the offers property which would
>> be used to identify individual Offer(s).  Offer has the offeredBy property
>> to reference the offering organisation/institution." [
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-schema-course-extend/2016May/0006.html
>> RJW]
>>
>> That seems sound, but I do have a concern that it ends up being quite
>> complex, is anyone going to argue for the simpler option of extending the
>> range of offeredBy so that it can be used on Course & CourseInstance
>> directly?
>>
>
> Phil,I think you meant extending the domain and not the range of
> offeredBy? A legitimate, useful argument can be made for extending the
> domain of offeredBy to include Course. An assertion that a Course is
> offeredBy a particular Organization or set of Organizations would be useful
> without reference to a particular Offer. I have some difficulty with such
> an extension to CourseInstance because it is, in a way, a particular offer
> (lower case).
>
>>
>>
>> Neither schema.org/offeredBy nor schema.org/creator fully cover what it
>> means for an organization to provide a course. I propose a new property to
>> cover this:
>>
>> provider, a property of Course with expect range Organization, being the
>> Organization which is responsible for providing the educational input for
>> the course, e.g. providing content, educational events, assessments,
>> accreditation etc.
>>
>
> Would a provider property solve the "endorsed" aspect of provenance noted.
>
>>
>>
>> I have started a wiki page for this requirement [3] and will work up an
>> example or two for it.
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> 1.
>> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Outline_use_cases#use_case_1.4_refining_UC1_by_provenance
>> 2. http://schema.org/offeredBy
>> 3.
>> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Organizations_providing_and_offering_course
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Phil Barker           @philbarker
>> LRMI, Cetis, ICBL     http://people.pjjk.net/phil
>> Heriot-Watt University
>>
>> Ubuntu: http://xkcd.com/456/
>>   not so much an operating system as a learning opportunity.
>>
>>
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