- From: Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:26:56 +0100
- To: Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net>
- Cc: Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk>, public-schema-course-extend@w3.org
On 19 August 2016 at 11:14, Stuart Sutton <sasutton@dublincore.net> wrote: > +1 on the range change. > > On the matter of credential/credential subclasses, the CTI is very close to > finalizing it's set of credential subclasses. How can we best follow that work? Is https://www.credentialtransparencyinitiative.org/Credential-Registry/Descriptors.aspx the page to watch, or did any mailing lists get opened for public participation? Looks like a lot of good work happening there, but https://www.credentialtransparencyinitiative.org/ talking so much about American / US issues makes me wonder how internationalized the results will be. Is it also looking at that side of things, e.g. dealing with translation of achievements between countries for immigration purposes? > That could well provide more > specific ranges; BUT, that said, schema.org should nevertheless push ahead > in the next build with range as proposed. +1 - looking forward to expanding on this area ASAP Dan > Stuart > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:43 AM, Phil Barker <phil.barker@hw.ac.uk> wrote: >> >> (Doing things slightly out of order here) >> >> While noting Wes's comments about the range / expected type for >> educationalCredentialAwarded and modelling of Credential, on the basis of >> all the other comments in the last day or so and from last time we went over >> this issue, I intend to progress as proposed below (with one minor change), >> as that represents the furthest on which there is a degree consensus. >> >> The minor change is to use Url rather than Thing as an alternative to >> plain text, as Dan suggested. >> >> Hence including http://pending.webschemas.org/educationalCredentialAwarded >> in the proposal of what can be proposed for inclusion in the next draft of >> schema.org >> >> Here's hoping the wider credentialling community can get us further. >> >> Regards, Phil >> >> On 18/08/2016 14:18, Phil Barker wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, one last call for feedback on this (sorry I left it hanging >>> earlier in the summer, if you really have the time you can review the >>> discussion at >>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-schema-course-extend/2016Jun/0019.html >>> ) >>> >>> In short I propose: >>> >>> 1. that we provide a property of course which can be used to point to an >>> educational credential that may be available to those who complete a course. >>> >>> 2. that the expected type for this property be Text or Thing until such >>> time as a specific model for educational credentials be created >>> >>> 3. that we do not attempt to model educational credentials as part of >>> this work. >>> >>> It is on point 3 that I would most welcome feedback. >>> >>> See >>> http://course.schema-course-extend.appspot.com/educationalCredentialAwarded >>> for details >>> >>> Brief Rational: the ability to provide a name and a URI for and >>> educational credential which may be obtained by successful completion of the >>> course is enough fulfil the use case requirement of being able to find >>> courses that offer some specific requirement; modelling educational >>> credentials would divert us from completing what is necessary to fulfil the >>> other use cases; and, educational credentials touch on many communities that >>> are not well represented in this group. >>> >>> Comments / feedback / dissent? >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> On 22/06/2016 11:20, Phil Barker wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I have drafted a description and a couple of examples based on the >>>> proposal below. >>>> >>>> See wiki >>>> >>>> https://www.w3.org/community/schema-course-extend/wiki/Identifying_the_qualification_offered >>>> >>>> and test course.schema site >>>> http://course.schema-course-extend.appspot.com/Course >>>> >>>> http://course.schema-course-extend.appspot.com/educationalCredentialAwarded >>>> >>>> Any further comments/amendments? >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> On 20/06/16 14:05, Phil Barker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> OK. As property name I am going to suggest educationalCredentialAwarded >>>>> because we might in the future want EducationalCredential as a class name. >>>>> >>>>> So, my proposal is that in order to meet the use case that people can >>>>> search for courses that offers a qualification the searcher would like to >>>>> acquire we create a new property >>>>> >>>>> educationalCredentialAwarded domain Course, range Text or Thing. >>>>> Definition: a description of the qualification, award, certificate, >>>>> diploma or other educational credential awarded as a consequence of >>>>> successful completion of this course. >>>>> >>>>> When the educational credentials/verifiable claims community have >>>>> sorted out how they want to describe their domain in schema.org then I hope >>>>> we will have some more specific schema type(s) that we can point to, but for >>>>> now this seems to me to be good enough to solve the use case. Solving the >>>>> bigger issue seems beyond the scope of this community group. >>>>> >>>>> Phil >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Phil Barker @philbarker >> LRMI, Cetis, ICBL http://people.pjjk.net/phil >> Heriot-Watt University >> >> Workflow: http://www.icbl.hw.ac.uk/~philb/workflow/ >> >> >
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