- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 05:43:35 +1000
- To: Adeel <aahmad1811@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-rww <public-rww@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAM1Sok3kqt0sPQWjb5rs65OMfGyPp37WWzTc7xjPQMKrp39azQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Adeel, It's 5:40am here, I've been up all night perusal. Will reply after I get some sleep. I have a bunch of docs around it, as does Amanda (and others). Also, checkout the slicing pie link. Will follow-up. Cheers. Timothy Holborn. On Sat, 14 Aug 2021, 5:25 am Adeel, <aahmad1811@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > So, from measuring the productive output for review across the value chain > how would it equate to: > > 1) contributor1 published some creative work as a commit (would the commit > in itself create the value or the push to master?) > 2) contributor2 publishes a bug to solve contributor1 creativework then > commits (how would that get tracked through the value chain?) > 3) lead comes along and does a scheduled merge this causes a summary of > certs to be produced across the value chain (who gets the credit, because > in the merge commit it overrides every other contributor on the chain that > has previously had made a commit? > 4) how do you validate the distributed contributions from overriding merge > commits? > 5) when the full website product is produced for distribution will there > be 4 contributors tracked or 1 with the summary cert? > 6) how would you track work output from an unquantifiable work output like > training/mentoring contributors on the value chain, something that is > abstract like code review, proofreading someone's work vs something that is > quantifiable like writing code, documentation or writing an article? > > Thanks, > > Adeel > > On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 at 20:05, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Couple things, >> >> History informs choice, or perverts it....depending on what character >> traits societies want to promote or punish, choices are made. >> >> quick bit of history (still a little irritated). >> >> >> [image: ValueChain.jpg] >> >> image source >> https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1oUsSlPEh8erOdkQJCLzFHBaqp7AYOJCqDw82YrCg9f4/edit >> (NB found: https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01227529/document ) >> https://slicingpie.com/the-grunt-fund-calculator/ is good too... >> >> always good to check dates; hopefully, it'll become easier, in future... >> >> Manu went about engaging in a contract pursuing educational credentials. >> It then appeared that he needed SBIR funding. We spoke about it, but he >> complained that he needed resources to even go after the grants. I kinda >> understood this due to a former business partner (2000-2) who did >> similar things (gov grants, biz plans, etc) locally ( https://bsi.com.au/ >> ); but didn't know how it went in the US, so I asked someone I thought >> would know. >> (per below). >> >> Whilst Manu later got SBIR funding, and I wonder if these actions led to >> "Respect Network" becoming more involved with credentials; it's still >> presently not as clear as could be useful for future purposes. >> >> The history of how that came about would be great to chart out... >> >> In anycase, See below... >> >> IMO: it is important to fill in the gaps. >> >> I know what I did in past to support the growth of knowledge banking >> systems, #RealityCheckTech - cyber support for #RuleOfLaw. And I know I >> have an archive that goes back some 20+ years on my work, with so much done >> over the last decade... i know and am mindful of the sorts of considerat >> ions that went into "verifiable claims" (rather than, 'identity >> credentials'). >> >> I don't think Victor knows it's now being used to power vaccine passports >> globally... >> >> But I also don't really want to follow-up with him about it, for various >> complicated reasons that go back to old issues, more than a decade overall; >> key to why the 'access to justice' use cases, the use cases where I wanted >> to record an environment via any media, then transcoded / phonetic >> analysis, all the stuff I first knew about from NMXS back in 2001 >> (transcoding digibetas & making them searchable, for cable tv distribution >> in the US) + so much more; to ensure, human rights of kids were easily able >> to be protected in a court of law. >> >> Just show the judge what happened... have the means to present the >> digital evidence when it matters most. Rather than letting immoral people >> assault kids, in darkness, with no evidence, for profits, for income; >> Income that is all too often, government paid (only caring about the next >> promotion, kinda people) - so i thought, build capability for low-cost >> truth telling in courts of law. fix problems, rather than engage in >> 'fairy-tale narrative' warfare, like a bunch of creatives on the astroturf >> late at night at the standard hotel in LA... >> >> Yet, knowing that wasn't something people here would have invested their >> time in solving; it was convenient that it fit into an ecosystem, what I >> called the knowledge banking ecosystem, and if it worked; it would solve >> that problem I cared most about in this generation of adults, not the next. >> >> So much progress since, but verifiable claims as 'vaccine passport', has >> very little to do with the protection of the human rights of kids. Indeed >> even providing verifiable claims in the sex worker industry (ie; mental >> health check, ensuring they're able to voluntarily make choices about their >> own lives & "of sound mind", etc.) to protect against human trafficking, >> na... Can't do that yet either... Not as profitable as helping out >> pharma, like we're all experts in pathology... >> >> "He thought he could build a secure system for people to access their >> personal computer functions, plus their favourite TV programs, movies, any >> kind of media, over the internet. "It was a* Bill Gates >> take-over-the-world platform*," he says. It sounds like a young man's >> grandiosity, but some of Australia's leading IT figures looked at his idea >> and liked it." >> >> Source June 19, 2004 - >> https://www.theage.com.au/national/start-me-up-20040619-gdy1tc.html >> >> >> In anycase: I think if the claim is that only coders are useful or that >> other similar statements made are going to be considered; then, I can keep >> providing more insights overtime about good faith work done in past and >> perhaps we can better clarify what happened, prior to those court hearings >> globally re: vaccine passports and related globalist affairs linked to mass >> toilet paper shortages and other amazing illustrations of ideologically >> compliant moral flexibility by some of our colleagues. >> >> There's alot of none coders who want to know what happened, and some of >> those noncoders have stockpiles of toilet paper to protect their health, as >> a consequence of the work done by so few here... >> >> (Population went up last year?) >> >> As noted, fairly irritated. >> >> I hope the underlying problems can be appropriately addressed as to >> optimise real-world productivity (/quality of life) throughout the western >> world (& elsewhere generally also), asap. >> >> As a consequence of this line of enquiry (per below) back in 2015, I then >> ended up doing a bunch of work on community tv, which is on the list around >> that time; a man called Tony Scott helped me with some financial / proposal >> works, extending from the aforementioned work with "Alex" amongst others... >> >> Tony later died tragically. RIP Tony Scott. >> >> Alot of big changes happened in AU law relating to modern slavery, >> domestic violence, anti-money laundering & related improvements around >> protections against financial crimes, etc. >> >> Obviously, part of what verifiable claims is suppose to help with; is >> KYC/AML. (Anti money laundering). >> >> I guess they're planning on upgrading the use cases for vaccine passports >> once implemented; I'd guess, they'll be plugged into prominent silicon >> valley global platforms, where they'll be managing the AI to help eradicate >> Content about particular subjects, whilst selling as much toilet paper as >> the climate change politics will allow. >> (Zombies). >> >> As noted; my work, is on #realitychecktech >> >> I found the cognitive AI CG, I think it makes more sense to look at how >> that layer is intended to work; then backfill. >> >> history below... >> >> Timothy Holborn. >> >> re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Perton >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Victor Perton <redacted> >> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015, 6:55 am hi >> Subject: Re: SBIR Writer >> To: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>, Anton Nekic <redacted> >> >> >> Dear Anton and Tim, maybe the two of you could collaborate on this >> project. Vic >> >> Anton, Tim write to me saying "*Looking for someone US based, ideally in >> or near MA; or, VIC. Australia, to help with a U.S. Application >> around http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/246440 >> <http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/246440>"* >> >> *Vic* >> >> >> >> *Victor Perton* >> *Adviser, Advocate and wise Counsel* >> <https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=1616303&authType=name&authToken=w8kb&trk=hp-feed-member-name> >> *Senior Adviser, Oppeus International <http://www.oppeus.com/> - **“Finding >> and Supporting Great Leaders”* >> *Principal, Victor Perton Global Partners* >> *Board Member, Australian Government's Council on Australian Latin >> American Relations (COALAR) >> <http://www.dfat.gov.au/people-to-people/foundations-councils-institutes/coalar/pages/council-for-australia-latin-america-relations-coalar.aspx>* >> >> *Steering Committee, Griffith University's Global Integrity Summit >> <http://integrity20.org/about/team/>* >> Redacted >> >> *Connect to Victor via Social Media* >> Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/in/victorperton> Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/victor.perton> Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/victorperton> Pinterest >> <http://pinterest.com/victorperton/> >> >> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Timothy Holborn < >> timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Hi Victor,Looking for someone US based, ideally in or near MA; or, VIC. >>> Australia, to help with a U.S. Application around >>> http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/246440 >>> <http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/246440>Tim.* >>> >> > > >
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