Re: [Admin] Agenda for RIF telecon March 16

Axel -

Nothing is perfect, look at RDF for @$&&&@$(( sake, yet it us seeing  
real uptake.  We have been 4+ years at RIF. IT IS DONE.

-Chris (sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 15, 2010, at 7:14 PM, "Polleres, Axel" <axel.polleres@deri.org>  
wrote:

> Sorry, I can't dial in tomorrow, as I am on a conference, I will try  
> to join on irc, but can't guarantee connectivity.
>
> Sandro, do you think you can summarise the issue?
>
> My personal worry here remains that rif:imports in a separate spec  
> has some risk of later incompatibilities, see item 2) in
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/0032.html
>
> If there are any ideas how this incompatibility could be avoided  
> without having to touch the current spec, I'd appreciate it!
>
> Best,
> Axel
>
> From: public-rif-wg-request@w3.org
> To: public-rif-wg@w3.org
> Sent: Mon Mar 15 17:59:59 2010
> Subject: [Admin] Agenda for RIF telecon March 16
>
> AGENDA Teleconference
> W3C Rules Interchange Format (RIF) Working Group
> 16 March 2010
>
> 1600 UTC, 0800 (West US) 1100 (East US) 1500 (London) 1600 (Paris)
> Duration: *90 min*
>
> *ATTENTION*: the telecon is one hour earlier than usual in Europe  
> (due to North America having moved to daylight saving time already)
>
> Scribe: Mike Dean (alternate: Gary Hallmark)
>
> *Agenda summary*
> 1. Admin (5 mn)
> 2. Liaison (5 mn)
> 3. Action review [2] [3] (5 mn)
> 4. Public comments [4] (5 mn)
> 5. SPARQL use of RIF namespace [5] (15 mn)
> 6. Status wrt CR exit criteria [6] (15 mn)
> 7. Features at risk [7] (15 mn)
> *PROPOSED:* keep the strictness requirement (feature at risk)  
> reworded as "a conformant implementation must reject a RIF document  
> that contains features that it does not support".
> 8. CR2PR (10 mn)
> *PROPOSED (contingent on previous two items)*: Move CR specs to PR
> 9. RIF primer (10 mn)
> 10. Test cases [8]
> *PROPOSED:* Approve test cases per review during telecon
> 11. AOB (next meeting)
>
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/att-0038/09-rif-minutes.html
> [2] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/open
> [3] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/pendingreview
> [4] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Public_Comments
> [5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/ 
> 0035.html
> [6] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Exit_Criteria
> [7] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Features_At_Risk
> [8] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Category:Test_Case
>
> -------------------
>
> *Detailed agenda*
>
> Bridges: +1.617.761.6200 (US), +33 4 89 06 34 99 (F) or +44.117.370.6152
> (GB)
> Conference code: 74394# ('RIFWG')
> IRC Chat: irc:irc.w3.org (port 6665), #rif
> Web-based IRC (member-only): [http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc]
>
> *PLEASE POST REGRETS* TO [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/TeleconRegrets
> ]
>
> Chair: Christian de Sainte Marie
> Scribe: Mike Dean (alternate: Gary Hallmark)
>
>
> See Scribes Ring [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/ScribeRing]
>
> Please note that RIF WG telecons are for attendance only by Working
> Group Participants and guests invited by the chairs.
>
> 1. ADMIN (5 min)
>
> - Roll call (please read before telecon the following)
> RIF Regrets Policy:
> [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/RegretsPolicy]
> Using Zakim:
> [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UsingZakim]
> Telecon Etiquette:
> [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/TeleconEtiquette]
> Action/Issues Tracker:
> [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/]
>
> - Agenda amendments
>
> PROPOSED: accept minutes of telecon March 9 [1]
>
> *Summer time*: North America moved to summer time on March 14,  
> Europe on March 28
>                               => Telecon 23 will, again, be one hour  
> early in Europe!
>
> 2. Liaison (5 min)
>
> - Review active liaisons:
> PRR (OMG) - Paul Vincent
> OWL (W3C) - Sandro Hawke
> HCLS (W3C IG) - Adrian Paschke
> SPARQL (W3C) - Axel Polleres
>
> 3. Action review (5 mn)
>
> - Review actions due [2] and pending review [3]
>
> 4. Public comments [4] (5 mn)
>
> - Review new public comments [4]
>
> 5. SPARQL use of RIF namespace [5] (15 mn)
>
> 6. Status wrt CR exit criteria [6] (15 mn)
>
> 7. Features at risk (15 mn)
>
> - Discuss and decide what to do with the remaining "at risk" feature  
> [7]
>
> *PROPOSED:* keep the strictness requirement (feature at risk)  
> reworded as "a conformant implementation must reject a RIF document  
> that contains features that it does not support".
>
> 8. CR2PR (10 mn)
>
> - If consensus that CR exit criteria are met and if fate of  
> remaining at risk feature resolved, discuss requesting that all the  
> CR specs be moved to PR
>
> *PROPOSED (contingent on previous two items)*: Move CR specs to PR
>
> 9. RIF primer (10 mn)
>
> - Discussion on publishing a RIF primer document.
>  * Among other questions: who will write it? Can this be derived  
> from UCR?
>
> 10. Test cases
>
> - Review and approve test cases [8]
>
> *PROPOSED:* Approve test cases per review during telecon
>
> 11. AOB (next meeting)
>
> - Next telecon: 23 March 2010 *1500 UTC*, 0800 (West US) 1100 (East  
> US) *1500 (London) 1600 (Paris)*
> -----------------------------------
>
> Christian
>
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