Re: [Admin] Agenda for RIF telecon March 16

Sorry, I can't dial in tomorrow, as I am on a conference, I will try to join on irc, but can't guarantee connectivity.

Sandro, do you think you can summarise the issue?

My personal worry here remains that rif:imports in a separate spec has some risk of later incompatibilities, see item 2) in 

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/0032.html


If there are any ideas how this incompatibility could be avoided without having to touch the current spec, I'd appreciate it!

Best,
Axel

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Subject: [Admin] Agenda for RIF telecon March 16 



AGENDA Teleconference 
W3C Rules Interchange Format (RIF) Working Group 
16 March 2010 

1600 UTC, 0800 (West US) 1100 (East US) 1500 (London) 1600 (Paris) 
Duration: *90 min* 

*ATTENTION*: the telecon is one hour earlier than usual in Europe (due to North America having moved to daylight saving time already) 

Scribe: Mike Dean (alternate: Gary Hallmark) 

*Agenda summary* 
1. Admin (5 mn) 
2. Liaison (5 mn) 
3. Action review [2] [3] (5 mn) 
4. Public comments [4] (5 mn) 
5. SPARQL use of RIF namespace [5] (15 mn) 
6. Status wrt CR exit criteria [6] (15 mn)
7. Features at risk [7] (15 mn) 
*PROPOSED:* keep the strictness requirement (feature at risk) reworded as "a conformant implementation must reject a RIF document that contains features that it does not support".
8. CR2PR (10 mn) 
*PROPOSED (contingent on previous two items)*: Move CR specs to PR
9. RIF primer (10 mn) 
10. Test cases [8]
*PROPOSED:* Approve test cases per review during telecon 
11. AOB (next meeting) 


[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/att-0038/09-rif-minutes.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/att-0038/09-rif-minutes.html> 
[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/open <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/open>  
[3] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/pendingreview <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/actions/pendingreview>  
[4] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Public_Comments <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Public_Comments>  
[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/0035.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2010Mar/0035.html>  
[6] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Exit_Criteria <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Exit_Criteria>  
[7] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Features_At_Risk <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Features_At_Risk>  
[8] http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Category:Test_Case <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/Category:Test_Case>  

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*Detailed agenda* 

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(GB) 
Conference code: 74394# ('RIFWG') 
IRC Chat: irc:irc.w3.org (port 6665), #rif 
Web-based IRC (member-only): [http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc <http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc> ] 

*PLEASE POST REGRETS* TO [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/TeleconRegrets <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/TeleconRegrets>  
] 

Chair: Christian de Sainte Marie
Scribe: Mike Dean (alternate: Gary Hallmark) 


See Scribes Ring [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/ScribeRing <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wiki/ScribeRing> ] 

Please note that RIF WG telecons are for attendance only by Working 
Group Participants and guests invited by the chairs. 

1. ADMIN (5 min) 

- Roll call (please read before telecon the following) 
RIF Regrets Policy: 
[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/RegretsPolicy <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/RegretsPolicy> ] 
Using Zakim: 
[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UsingZakim <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UsingZakim> ] 
Telecon Etiquette: 
[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/TeleconEtiquette <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/TeleconEtiquette> ] 
Action/Issues Tracker: 
[http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/ <http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/> ] 

- Agenda amendments 

PROPOSED: accept minutes of telecon March 9 [1] 

*Summer time*: North America moved to summer time on March 14, Europe on March 28 
                              => Telecon 23 will, again, be one hour early in Europe!

2. Liaison (5 min) 

- Review active liaisons: 
PRR (OMG) - Paul Vincent 
OWL (W3C) - Sandro Hawke 
HCLS (W3C IG) - Adrian Paschke 
SPARQL (W3C) - Axel Polleres 

3. Action review (5 mn) 

- Review actions due [2] and pending review [3] 

4. Public comments [4] (5 mn) 

- Review new public comments [4] 

5. SPARQL use of RIF namespace [5] (15 mn) 

6. Status wrt CR exit criteria [6] (15 mn)

7. Features at risk (15 mn) 

- Discuss and decide what to do with the remaining "at risk" feature [7] 

*PROPOSED:* keep the strictness requirement (feature at risk) reworded as "a conformant implementation must reject a RIF document that contains features that it does not support".

8. CR2PR (10 mn) 

- If consensus that CR exit criteria are met and if fate of remaining at risk feature resolved, discuss requesting that all the CR specs be moved to PR 

*PROPOSED (contingent on previous two items)*: Move CR specs to PR

9. RIF primer (10 mn) 

- Discussion on publishing a RIF primer document. 
 * Among other questions: who will write it? Can this be derived from UCR? 

10. Test cases

- Review and approve test cases [8] 

*PROPOSED:* Approve test cases per review during telecon 

11. AOB (next meeting) 

- Next telecon: 23 March 2010 *1500 UTC*, 0800 (West US) 1100 (East US) *1500 (London) 1600 (Paris)* 
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