- From: Jos de Bruijn <debruijn@inf.unibz.it>
- Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:59:28 +0200
- To: Christian de Sainte Marie <csma@ilog.fr>
- CC: RIF WG <public-rif-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <48170DA0.2080607@inf.unibz.it>
>
> Beside the question of enabling different dialects to distinguish
> different kinds of groups of FORMUALE without bloating FLD (see [1]),
> and still leaving aside the orthogonal issue of where to hang metadata,
> there might be another issue in the Group/Rule discussion that I did not
> see explicited in emails nor telecon mminutes (but I missed some
> telecons recently).
>
> In a solution like the one in the first part of this message [1]
> (similar to the one Chris proposed [2]), RULE formulae can be wrapped
> directly in a Group (without each being wrapped in a Rule WRAPPER):
>
> Document ::= 'Document' '(' Group? ')' /* leaving meta etc out
> WRAPPER ::= Group | Rule
> Group ::= 'Group' '(' (RULE | WRAPPER)* ')'
> Rule ::= 'Rule' '(' RULE ')'
>
> Is that a issue for the people who want a specific Rule wrapper or isn't
> it one?
It is not an issue for me. The Rule wrapper can be optional; one would
only use it if one wants to assign an identifier or attach metadata to a
rule.
Best, Jos
>
> As I mentionned already, a problem I can see with that solution is that
> there are many different ways to serialise the same set of RULE formulae
> (e.g. as a Group of RULEs or as a Group of Rules). Or isn't that a problem?
>
> If it is, a solution could be to disallow Groups to wrap RULEs directly:
>
> Document ::= 'Document' '(' Group? ')' /* leaving meta etc out
> WRAPPER ::= Group | Rule
> Group ::= 'Group' '(' WRAPPER* ')'
> Rule ::= 'Rule' '(' RULE ')'
>
> But that would make wrapping each RULE in a Rule mandatory, instead of
> optional: or is that desirable to some people in the group?
>
> Another question regards the Document production: would it be a problem
> to allow a Document to contain several Groups at the same level? If not,
> we could have:
>
> Document ::= 'Document' '(' WRAPPER* ')'
>
> instead (same in FLD),which would allow a document to contain a set of
> Rule WRAPPERs directly, where an additional Group is not needed.
>
> Opinions? Comments?
>
> Christian
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2008Apr/0186.html
> [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2008Apr/0148.html
>
>
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