[RIF] Minutes of Teleconference 4 July

W3C - RIF Telecon 4 Jul 2006

Chair: csma

Attendees on the phone: Sandro, Harold, Stan_Devitt (muted),
DavidHirtle, PaulaP (muted), +1.705.756.aaaa, Axel_Polleres
(muted), csma, Dave_Reynolds, JeffP, MarkusK (muted)

Attendees on IRC: Donald_Chapin, johnhall, JeffP, DaveReynolds,
AxelPolleres, MoZ, MarkusK, csma, PaulaP, StanDevitt, Harold,
RRSAgent, DavidHirtle, Zakim, sandro, trackbot, Keep

See also: IRC log Attendees

Scribe
    JeffP

Contents

    * Topics
    * Summary of Action Items


csma: Next Meeting: 11 July 2006


PROPOSED: accept minutes of June 27 meeting
<MoZ>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Jun/0182.html
<AxelPolleres> +1
<AxelPolleres> ... to accept the minutes
csma: minutes accepted
<sandro> RESOLVED: accept
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2006Jun/0182.html
as minutes of June 27 meeting

csma: Agenda amendments? ... no

<johnhall> Can't connect to phone - says 74394# is invalid
<sandro> very very strange, johnhall. :-(

Action review [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/products/4]
csma: any comments?

3. Liaison

Action review [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/products/3]

<sandro> csma: Action about PRR draft still open because I haven't
checked with Fair Isaac
<AxelPolleres> Is SPARQL connected with some action item?

csma: nothing new on Liaison

<scribe> ACTION: csma and Chris Welty to solve the SPARQL liaison
problem [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

<csma> ack ??p13

4. Use Cases and Requirements

Review actions [http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/products/6]

<AxelPolleres> regrets on behalf of JosDeBruijn
<AxelPolleres> I substitute for DERI
csma: Is the action on JosDB done?
<AxelPolleres> I think continued

<DavidHirtle> latest draft (I believe):
<DavidHirtle> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/ucr/draft-20060628

csma: any comments on UC&R? ... DavidH sent an email on this

<PaulaP> +1 to remove the link to the CSF and keep the requirement
<DaveReynolds> Suggest leaving in the CSF, update the diagram to
match, leave the other CSF's for future iterations

csma: anyone support remove the requirement altogether? ... no
reply ... two options, one from Paula the other from DaveR

<StanD> +1 for change diagram
csma: we can ask Frank to change that ... anyone object? ... no
reply

<scribe> ACTION: csma to ack Frank to do the modification
[recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

AxelP: shall we add a note in the XML requirement?
<DavidHirtle> +1 to Dave
DaveR: we need some mechanism to track things we want to do after
the release
<AxelPolleres> +1 to make open issues visible.
sandro: it is more of a design issue
DaveR: A wiki page can do the job ... three items on the todo list
... one on UC 2.5

<scribe> ACTION: on DavidH to add the three items to the
consider/document issue list [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

<DaveReynolds> +1 the "to consider list" is small scale and leave
in Wiki rather than confuse document
<AxelPolleres> +1 if we add a reference to the to be considered
list
<DavidHirtle> I noticed that too, Paula

PaulaP: the requirement is not clean ... under interoperability

<DaveReynolds> Yes, should be linked in I think
csma: we agreed to remove it from the diagram

<scribe> ACTION: on Frank to remove the complain models,
requirement from the interoperability diagram [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

csma: other comments on the doc?

AxelP: some minor issues that I can send to the mailing list

<AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to send a list with small edits by
tomorrow night [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

<scribe> ACTION: AxelP to email the list per some small edit for
the doc by July 5 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

<AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to send another mail with issues "to
be considered" and add it to the wiki within 2 weeks [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

<AxelPolleres> Can someone paste the URL of the issues list?

<DavidHirtle> new issues list:

<DavidHirtle>
http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/UCR/Document_issues

<DavidHirtle> old issues list:

<DavidHirtle> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/WD-DC (section
2)

<sandro> I assume we're not talking about:
http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/track/issues/open

csma: it is not easily accessible ... other comments? ... I will
send an email to the list about the consider list ... for the
details

<PaulaP> yes, it is clear

csma: resolution: the WG will publish the public draft of UCR with
no other modification than the ones that we just discussed

<sandro> that is:

csma: who is in favour of the resolution?

<sandro> PROPOSED: publish the public draft of UCR with no other
modification than the ones that we just agreed to

<sandro> Sandro/W3C YES

<sandro> Harold/NCR YES

<MoZ> MoZ/Innovimax YES

<PaulaP> Paula/REWERSE - YES

<sandro> PFPS/Bolzano YES

AxelP: is there a timeline for the next version?

csma: between 3-6 months

<sandro> Axel/DERI_Innsbruck: YES

<MarkusK> MarkusK/FZI YES

<AxelPolleres> comment: we should not again postpone comments over
more than one iteration

<DaveReynolds> Dave Reynolds/HP YES

<sandro> CSMA(with ILOG Hat)/ILOG: YES

<sandro> Jeff Pan / Aberdeen: YES

<Donald_Chapin> Donald/OMG YES

csma: resolution adapted

DavidH/NCR YES

<sandro> (David Hirtle is the alternate for NRC.)

<sandro> RESOLVED: publish the public draft of UCR with no other
modification than the ones that we just agreed to

<PaulaP> no urgent issues

csma: AOB? ... propose to adjourn


<PaulaP> +1

<sandro> +1 adjourn

+1

<AxelPolleres> +1

<PaulaP> bye Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Axel to send a
list with small edits by tomorrow night [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action05] [NEW]
ACTION: Axel to send another mail with issues "to be considered"
and add it to the wiki within 2 weeks [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action07] [NEW]
ACTION: AxelP to email the list per some small edit for the doc by
July 5 [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action06] [NEW]
ACTION: csma and Chris Welty to solve the SPARQL liaison problem
[recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action01] [NEW]
ACTION: csma to ack Frank to do the modification [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action02] [NEW]
ACTION: on DavidH to add the three items to the consider/document
issue list [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action03] [NEW]
ACTION: on Frank to remove the complain models, requirement from
the interoperability diagram [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2006/07/04-rif-minutes.html#action04]

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