- From: Antoine Zimmermann <antoine.zimmermann@emse.fr>
- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:37:05 +0200
- To: public-rdf-wg@w3.org
Follow-up of my two previous emails: 4.1. owl:imports entailment. Good. Minor suggested change: "If <r1,r2> in IEXT(I(owl:imports)) and IGEXT(r2) is defined then IGEXT(r1) entails IGEXT(r2)." --> "If <r1,r2> in IEXT(Id(owl:imports)), IGEXT(r1) and IGEXT(r2) are defined then IGEXT(r1) E-entails IGEXT(r2)." Remark: if we opt for IRI-IGEXT, then the definition becomes: "If <Id(n1),Id(n2)> in IEXT(Id(owl:imports)), IGEXT(n1) and IGEXT(n2) are defined then IGEXT(n1) E-entails IGEXT(n2)." 4.2. Web entailment. "If r is a web resource with at least one representation in an RDF format" this condition cannot be checked by a reasoner. You need an oracle that tells you when an IRI denotes a web resource. This oracle may be something like httpRange14 or simply a dereferencing function + reasoning to detect identity. This means that there must be one more step of indirection, which you do not have if you use IRI-IGEXT. With IRI-IGEXT, Web entailment associates with an IRI whatever RDF graph you get by dereferencing the IRI. I'm pretty sure that most people would rather like to say that the graph associated with an IRI is what can be looked up using HTTP or an appropriate proptocol. For instance, the graph at freebase:Tim Berners-Lee would have the triples that are found in the freebase database, not the triples found at: dbpedia:Tim_Berners-Lee union <http://southampton.rkbexplorer.com/id/person-07113> union <http://id.ecs.soton.ac.uk/person/7113> union <http://data.semanticweb.org/person/tim-berners-lee> union ...154 other web addresses that are owl:sameAs TimBL That's why I prefer IRI-IGEXT. 4.3. Direct graph semantics. I don't think this is going to fly. It is way too restrictive. I believe that what we need is a flexible vocabulary à la Service description. Such a vocabulary should not clutter RDF reasoners with strong semantics constraints. However, people who are interested in implementing support for the vocabulary can interpret the terms in a special way. People already do that. There are tools that display instances of foaf:Person in a special way. There are Web crawlers that interpret the voiD vocabulary in a special way. They do not need that the special interpretation be hard coded in reasoners. If I had to directly talk about a graph in a named graph, I would do it like this: :g a sd:Graph; :validityTime "1998-09-11"^^xsd:date; ... :g { :bob :employedBy :ibm } It works, as long as I am using an agreed upon, explicit specification of a shared conceptualisation, a.k.a. an ontology. AZ. Le 11/09/2012 11:46, Richard Cyganiak a écrit : > On 10 Sep 2012, at 17:30, Richard Cyganiak wrote: >> Two other things that I'd quite like to see before we can call the proposal complete: >> >> 1. Some thinking on how it addresses our graph use cases. (Do we have an “official” list of those? I've lost track with all the various documents.) >> >> 2. Some examples for semantic extensions, in order to show that various other proposed semantics can actually be done as proper semantic extensions of this minimal dataset semantics. > > I've worked a bit on this item and made attempts to formalize three semantic extensions: > > * owl:imports (formally explains how owl:imports works in RDF datasets) > * web datasets (formally defines that stuff published on the web is asserted) > * direct graph semantics (permits "literal" immutable graphs) > > http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/TF-Graphs/Minimal-dataset-semantics#Possible_Semantic_Extensions > > I'm not proposing that we should standardize any of this; the intention is merely to explore how flexible/extensible the semantics proposed on that page is. > > Again, I'm not really good at this formal semantics stuff, so this might all be spectacularly wrong. > > Best, > Richard > -- Antoine Zimmermann ISCOD / LSTI - Institut Henri Fayol École Nationale Supérieure des Mines de Saint-Étienne 158 cours Fauriel 42023 Saint-Étienne Cedex 2 France Tél:+33(0)4 77 42 66 03 Fax:+33(0)4 77 42 66 66 http://zimmer.aprilfoolsreview.com/
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