- From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
- Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:36:22 -0500
- To: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
- Cc: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, public-rdf-text@w3.org
On May 28, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Jonathan Rees wrote: > The reason for your discomfort is that, like XMLLiteral, it's a use/ > mention > confusion. Except that in this one case, since plain literals are self-denoting, use/mention confusion is strictly correct. But I take your point, and agree about the intuition. > All the other type names are descriptive of the values; zzzLiteral > is descriptive of the syntactic form. It would be like saying that > kangaroos > are polysyllabic. > > But at this point agreement on any name, even a bad one, is probably > better than continued angst. True. Pat > > Jonathan > > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org> wrote: >> >>>> (Honestly, don't throw rocks, but I'm having second thoughts >>>> about the >>>> renaming. It's just... long. >>> >>> OK, then try rdf:plain (or rdf:Plain )instead of rdf:text, if length >>> really is an issue. I think the link to plain literal is really >>> useful. >>> >>>> And we have to figure out whether to >>>> rename all the builtins and the namespace for the builtins now, >>>> too. I >>>> guess we should wait for Axel to be back next week before going >>>> farther >>>> with that.) >> >> Okay, it's not just that it's long. I'm also imagining people >> coming to >> this stuff fresh. The see datatypes with names like 'integer', >> 'dateTime', 'string', and 'PlainLiteral'? It seems a little odd. >> But, >> there is 'XMLLiteral' too, it's true. So... whatever. (I don't >> really >> like 'rdf:plain' or 'rdf:Plain'.) >> >> If we stick with rdf:PlainLiteral, what do we can the builtins and >> the >> namespace for the builtins? Here's my best guess.... >> >> ====== OLD ====== ======= NEW ======= >> text-from-string plain-literal-from-string >> string-from-text string-from-plain-literal >> lang-from-text lang-from-plain-literal >> compare compare >> length length >> matches-language-range matches-language-range >> >> There's also the XML namespace name, which was >> rtfn <http://www.w3.org/2009/rdf-text-functions> >> and I guess we should change to >> plfn <http://www.w3.org/2009/plain-literal-functions> >> This namespace only comes up when using these functions in >> something like XPath or XQuery, where they are purely optional. When >> they are used in RIF, where they are mandatory, they appear in the >> normal RIF function namespace. >> >> -- Sandro >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ IHMC (850)434 8903 or (650)494 3973 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola (850)202 4440 fax FL 32502 (850)291 0667 mobile phayesAT-SIGNihmc.us http://www.ihmc.us/users/phayes
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