- From: Jie Bao <baojie@cs.rpi.edu>
- Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:41:36 -0400
- To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Cc: public-rdf-text@w3.org
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org> wrote:
>
> Alan, Eric, and I just talked through the status of this effort, and
> came up with an agenda based on trying to make sure we're all in
> agreement on the things we think we're in agreement on, and then going
> on to share ideas about the remaining issue(s).
>
> Changed IRC channel: #owl
> Teleconference code: OWL1 (6951)
> 10am Eastern Time
>
> This agenda has lots of PROPOSED resolutions. This group has no formal
> decision-making authority, so these resolutions should be understood as
> reflecting consensus among the people who attend. Brief +1 / -1
> response via e-mail could be helpful, too.
>
> 1. set of language tags
>
> BCP-47 vs RFC-3066
> Clarify that we're interpreting RDF Concepts as
> linking to 3066 or it successor.
> double-check with addison?
>
> PROPOSED: We understand that when RDF Concepts referred to RFC
> 3066 it really meanted "RFC 3066 or its successor" (which is
> currently BCP-47). We'll add a note to this effect to this spec.
+1
>
> 2. change of name of datatype
>
> PROPOSED: The datatype previously known as rdf:text should be
> called rdf:PlainLiteral
>
maybe rdf:plainLiteral? just follow the example like xsd:unsignedLong.
But I don't have a strong opinion for P/p, and is happy with whatever
the majority decide.
> 3. change of title
>
> PROPOSED: The title will no longer mention i18n. It will be
> something more like: A Datatype for RDF Plain Literals
>
+1
> 4. how much of i18n stuff to remove?
>
> PROPOSED: Pending approval from Michael Sperberg-McQueen, we'll
> remove the 3rd intro paragraph (from LC version). It talks about
> xml:lang, etc.
>
+1
> (That paragraph was expanded in response to Michael
> Sperberg-McQueen's comment. Assuming Michael is okay, we'll just
> drop that paragraph.)
>
> 5. action: we need a new Abstract
>
+1
> 6. plain literals without language tags
>
> PROPOSED: rdf:PlainLiterals will map 1-1 to RDF Plain Literals, so
> Plain Literals with and without language are both handled by
> rdf:PlainLiteral.
>
0 (need to think more)
> 7. backward-compatibility goal
>
> This spec is not asking anyone to change their RDF implementation.
> We're not adding market pressure to add the d-entailment. RDF
> folks can freely ignore this spec, without harm.
>
> PROPOSED: The spec will be clear that while this spec formally
> specifies an XML Schema datatype, we do not promote or suggest or
> pressure RDF or SPARQL software or data to be modified to
> support/use this datatype.
>
+1 (if this will reduce the main tension between this doc and RDF/SPARQL people)
> 8. interoperability goal
>
> PROPOSED: We'll say something about how rdf:PlainLiteral typed
> literals are not supposed to to leak out and break the
> backward-compatibility goal.
>
+1 (I believe it follows from 7)
> 9. How to meet the interoperability goal...?
>
> .. brainstorming, sharing ideas, etc ...
>
> * Pat's approach using RDF'
>
> Status of Table 3?
>
> What do we say specifically about SPARQL?
>
> - it shouldn't be be in the queried graph (but this this
> isn't about SPARQL)
> - it shouldn't be in the BGP
> - it shouldn't be in a filter
> STR("foo@"^^rdf:PlainLiteral), LANG( ), DATATYPE( )
> - it shouldn't be in CONSTRUCT
>
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Jie Bao
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~baojie
Received on Wednesday, 27 May 2009 05:42:13 UTC