- From: Seaborne, Andy <andy.seaborne@hp.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:39:03 +0000
- To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>, "public-rdf-text@w3.org" <public-rdf-text@w3.org>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-rdf-text-request@w3.org [mailto:public-rdf-text-
> request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Sandro Hawke
> Sent: 26 May 2009 23:36
> To: public-rdf-text@w3.org
> Subject: rdf-text telecon agenda
>
>
> Alan, Eric, and I just talked through the status of this effort, and
> came up with an agenda based on trying to make sure we're all in
> agreement on the things we think we're in agreement on, and then going
> on to share ideas about the remaining issue(s).
>
> Changed IRC channel: #owl
> Teleconference code: OWL1 (6951)
> 10am Eastern Time
>
> This agenda has lots of PROPOSED resolutions. This group has no formal
> decision-making authority, so these resolutions should be understood as
> reflecting consensus among the people who attend. Brief +1 / -1
> response via e-mail could be helpful, too.
>
> 1. set of language tags
>
> BCP-47 vs RFC-3066
> Clarify that we're interpreting RDF Concepts as
> linking to 3066 or it successor.
> double-check with addison?
>
> PROPOSED: We understand that when RDF Concepts referred to RFC
> 3066 it really meanted "RFC 3066 or its successor" (which is
> currently BCP-47). We'll add a note to this effect to this spec.
>
No opinion
> 2. change of name of datatype
>
> PROPOSED: The datatype previously known as rdf:text should be
> called rdf:PlainLiteral
+1
>
> 3. change of title
>
> PROPOSED: The title will no longer mention i18n. It will be
> something more like: A Datatype for RDF Plain Literals
No opinion
>
> 4. how much of i18n stuff to remove?
>
> PROPOSED: Pending approval from Michael Sperberg-McQueen, we'll
> remove the 3rd intro paragraph (from LC version). It talks about
> xml:lang, etc.
>
> (That paragraph was expanded in response to Michael
> Sperberg-McQueen's comment. Assuming Michael is okay, we'll just
> drop that paragraph.)
No opinion
>
> 5. action: we need a new Abstract
No opinion
>
> 6. plain literals without language tags
>
> PROPOSED: rdf:PlainLiterals will map 1-1 to RDF Plain Literals, so
> Plain Literals with and without language are both handled by
> rdf:PlainLiteral.
So no overlap with xsd:string?
> 7. backward-compatibility goal
>
> This spec is not asking anyone to change their RDF implementation.
> We're not adding market pressure to add the d-entailment. RDF
> folks can freely ignore this spec, without harm.
>
> PROPOSED: The spec will be clear that while this spec formally
> specifies an XML Schema datatype, we do not promote or suggest or
> pressure RDF or SPARQL software or data to be modified to
> support/use this datatype.
0
(Specs are not places to do this).
>
> 8. interoperability goal
>
> PROPOSED: We'll say something about how rdf:PlainLiteral typed
> literals are not supposed to to leak out and break the
> backward-compatibility goal.
+1
>
> 9. How to meet the interoperability goal...?
I'm confused.
Is this relative to the current wiki text?
>
> .. brainstorming, sharing ideas, etc ...
>
> * Pat's approach using RDF'
>
> Status of Table 3?
>
> What do we say specifically about SPARQL?
>
> - it shouldn't be be in the queried graph (but this this
> isn't about SPARQL)
Need to say must not be exposed by a system providing enhanced entailment.
Covered by "MUST NOT occur ... in the results of SPARQL basic graph pattern matching [SPARQL] using extended SPARQL Basic Graph Matching;"
> - it shouldn't be in the BGP
?? As a constant in a BGP ??
If it is legal RDF, it should be allowed. Other "illegal" things are (helps people find them in duff data and fix it).
> - it shouldn't be in a filter
> STR("foo@"^^rdf:PlainLiteral), LANG( ), DATATYPE( )
Little value banning it.
> - it shouldn't be in CONSTRUCT
+1 (and already covered by "MUST NOT occur in published RDF content")
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