Re: weakness of embedded triples

I'm still missing desiderata and motivations for RDF* beyond "fewer
triples".   Without this there isn't going to be a way to approve a semantics
for RDF*.  (It is possible to disapprove a semantics without a desiderata, but
not possible to approve it.)


peter


On 10/27/20 6:17 PM, Pierre-Antoine Champin wrote:
> Peter,
>
> On 27/10/2020 20:01, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote:
>> [Back to the original topic of this thread.]
>>
>>
>> I was looking at the semantics of RDF* and I think I have discovered further
>> weakness of embedded triples.  In the semantics for RDF* there is a special
>> mechanism to allow:
>>
>> Mary believes << John loves _:a >>
>>
>> to RDF*-entail
>>
>> Mary believes << John loves _:b >>
>>
>>
>> But this mechanism is very weak.  As far as I can tell
>>
>> Mary believes << John loves _:a >>
>>
>> does not RDF*-entail
>>
>> Mary believes << John loves _:c >>
>>
>> Mary believes << John loves _:b >>
>>
>>
>> nor does
>>
>>
>> Mary believes << John loves Susan >>
>>
>> RDF*-entail
>>
>> Mary believes << John loves _:a >>
>>
>>
>> Both of these non-entailments seem to me to be significant problems with RDF*.
> You are right, these entailments do not hold under the current
> semantics, and I agree that this is a serious problem.
>
> Actually, your initial questions in this thread made use realize these
> problems -- thanks for that ;-) -- and we have started working on a
> revised semantics which is currently in a pull request, and that we
> intend to merge soon. In the meantime, the PR is here:
>
> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/pull/19
>
>   best
>
>>
>> peter
>>
>>
>>

Received on Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:29:35 UTC