- From: Joshua Shinavier <joshsh@uber.com>
- Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:10:33 -0700
- To: Pierre-Antoine Champin <pierre-antoine.champin@univ-lyon1.fr>
- Cc: public-rdf-star@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAPc0OuvBQm-+1nJjwxfkdFxa_A34n8ab=0eTZC9_K0gxFaZyxg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Pierre, Just a quick response from a representative "property graph" user. I have not been active on this list so far, and actually mistook your email for a gremlin-users post. So let me just say what I would have said. First of all, property graph frameworks are usually not prescriptive about semantics, so your property-qualified edge "means what you want it to mean". At the same time, it is generally not the case that an edge qualified with a property like "since" would be considered to be asserted, independently of the property. A canonical example is the TinkerPop toy graph <http://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/current/reference/#graph-computing>, which has a "weight" property on each edge. The edge created{peter, lop} has a weight of 0.2, which basically means that the statement "Peter is a creator of LOP" is a non-assertion. I read your :since and :until example exactly as you do: the statement spouse{alice, bob} is asserted conditionally on a logical point in time. Josh On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 8:36 AM Pierre-Antoine Champin < pierre-antoine.champin@univ-lyon1.fr> wrote: > Hi all, > > here is a question for those on the list who have discussed more than I > have with Property Graph users. > > There seem to be a consensus here that in PG, arcs with metadata are > asserted at the same time as they are annotated. This is reflected in the > PG interpretation of RDF*, where: > > <<:alice :spouse :bob>> :since 2001-02-03^^xsd:date . > > asserts exactly two triples. > > But as I understand, PG people are also likely to express things like: > > <<:alice :spouse :bob>> :since 2001-02-03^^xsd:date ; > :until 2004-05-06^^xsd:date . > > if Alice and Bob eventually got divorced. > In that situation, the arc <<:alice :spouse :bob>> should *no longer* be > considered asserted in the graph. > > Question: is this scenario a plausible one in a PG context? >
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