On 08/01/2025 15:41, Franconi Enrico wrote:
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>> On 8 Jan 2025, at 15:36, Franconi Enrico <franconi@inf.unibz.it> wrote:
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>>> On 8 Jan 2025, at 15:30, Franconi Enrico <franconi@inf.unibz.it> wrote:
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>>> I understand that the gist of this thread is that subjects,
>>> predicates, objects in a triple term (at any level of nesting) have
>>> the same denotation — namely the value of [I+A](.) — as if they were
>>> appearing as subjects, predicates, objects in top-level asserted
>>> triples, but nothing else; this is “transparency”.
Yep, that's exactly how I see it.
>>> If those subjects, predicates, objects are mentioned ONLY within
>>> triple terms, then they will not have any inferred property at all
>>> (including metamodelling properties).
>>> The only inferred properties that those subjects, predicates,
>>> objects in a triple term (at any level of nesting) may have, come
>>> from other asserted top-level triples mentioning them.
This is where I was wrong and where Dörthe corrected me.
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>> Still, I feel uncomfortable with the fact that an IRI in subject or
>> object position of a triple term is NOT of type rdfs:resource, and
>> that and IRI in property position of a triple term is NOT of type
>> rdfs: property.
>> But I guess we have to live with that.
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> But semantically they ARE resources and properties, so we should find
> a way to fix it, I guess…
I agree that some of the entailment patterns need to be adapted, see the
last part of my earlier response
<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-star-wg/2025Jan/0023.html>.
pa
> —e.