Re: Consolidating triple/edges -- named occurrence version

Hi Enrico,

Ah! I see! Thanks for the clarification.

Olaf


On Fri, 2024-01-05 at 12:02 +0000, Franconi Enrico wrote:
> Hi Olaf,
> I’m referring to the semantics proposed in [1] - as previously
> referred to by Andy.
> Of course, it is possible to consider other semantics.
> —e.
> 
> [1] 
> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/wiki/Semantics:-Andy's-proposal
> 
> > On 5 Jan 2024, at 12:51, Olaf Hartig <olaf.hartig@liu.se> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Enrico,
> > 
> > You recent emails about these "correct derivations with triple
> > occurrences" are confusing me. The way these emails are written
> > makes
> > it sound as if there can be no other semantics of triple
> > occurrences
> > than a semantics that leads to the entailments that you mention. Is
> > this really the case? Or should I read you emails more as a
> > proposal of
> > requirements to be satisfied by the semantics to be defined, where
> > this
> > proposal is up to discussion?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Olaf
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2024-01-05 at 09:32 +0000, Franconi Enrico wrote:
> > > Important retraction!
> > > The entailments involving owl:same-as in my past emails with are
> > > FALSE.
> > > Indeed, equality does not play any special role in triple
> > > occurrences.
> > > 
> > > The examples below show some correct derivations with triple
> > > occurrences, emphasising that the same triple term may have
> > > distinct
> > > occurrences, and that the same referent may be the occurrence of
> > > distinct triples:
> > > << :wed-1 | :liz :spouse :richard >>
> > >  :starts 1964 ;
> > >  :ends 1974 .
> > > << :wed-2 | :liz :spouse :richard >>
> > >  :starts 1975 ;
> > >  :ends 1976 .
> > > << :wed-2 | :liz a :wife >> .
> > > The above entails:
> > > << :wed-1 :starts 1964 >> .
> > > << [] | _:x a :wife >>
> > >  :starts 1975 .
> > > —e.
> > > 
> > > > On 4 Jan 2024, at 16:00, Franconi Enrico
> > > > <franconi@inf.unibz.it>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > For example:
> > > > > 
> > > > > << wed-1 | :liz :spouse :richard >> .
> > > > >   :starts 1964; :end 1974 .
> > > > > :richard owl:same-as :richard-burton
> > > > > ⊨
> > > > > << :wed-1 | :liz :spouse :richard-burton >> .
> > > > 
> > > > and the other way round as well:
> > > > 
> > > > << wed-1 | :liz :spouse :richard >> .
> > > >   :starts 1964; :end 1974 .
> > > > << :wed-1 | :liz :spouse :richard-burton >> .
> > > > ⊨
> > > > :richard owl:same-as :richard-burton
> > > > 
> > > > —e.
> > > 
> > 
>

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