Re: Event Updated: RDF-star WG biweekly meeting

> On 27. Aug 2024, at 20:19, Franconi Enrico <franconi@inf.unibz.it> wrote:
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>> RDF-star WG biweekly meeting
>> 29 August 2024, 12:00 -12:55 America/New_York
>> Agenda
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>> Proposed resultion by Semantics TF 3
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> This was the approved proposed resolution by the TF:
> Any IRI used as the predicate of a triple whose object is a triple term denotes an instance of the denotation of rdf:ReificationProperty.
> The actual impact of this resolution on the baseline is formalised in:
> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/wiki/RDF-star-%22alternative-baseline%22#rdf-semantics
> 
>> 3
>> Proposal for next week's discussion
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> We should discuss whether or not to limit the (abstract) syntax to have triple terms only in object position.
> I believe that we have had enough discussions to take a final decision on whether or not to extend RDFS with rdfs:assert, as defined in:
> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg/wiki/Extending-the-baseline-with-%22asserted%22-stuff

I believe that the proposal of rdfs:states/asserts still needs more discussion. A different perspective than the above linked wiki page is provided in my recent mail "statements about statements" [0].
 
Discussions have only recently taken up speed, important questions have not yet been answered, possible misunderstandings have not been clarified, counter proposals lack detail (and will run into the same problems that the proposed rdfs:states is said to have), and the issue is after all of real importance and consequence for envisoned usage of RDF-star (which can not necessarily be said about the question if triple terms should be allowed to occur in subject position of RDF triples).

Best,
Thomas


[0] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-star-wg/2024Aug/0141.html

> cheers
> —e.
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>> RDF-star WG biweekly meeting
>> 29 August 2024, 12:00 -12:55 America/New_York
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>> Agenda
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>> Approval of minutes from the last two meetings: 1 <https://www.w3.org/2024/08/15-rdf-star-minutes.html>, 2 <https://www.w3.org/2024/08/22-rdf-star-minutes.html>
>> Proposed resultion by Semantics TF 3 <https://www.w3.org/2024/08/23-rdf-star-minutes.html>
>> Proposal for next week's discussion
>> Review of pull requests, available at 4 <https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/4>
>> Issue Triage, available at 5 <https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/20/views/5>
>> Any Other Business (AOB), time permitting
>> Scribe: Kellogg, Gregg (alternate: Seaborne, Andy)
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>> Next week's scribe: Seaborne, Andy (alternate: Williams, Gregory)
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