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Re: Telecon Agenda - November 12, 2009, 1600 UTC

From: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:21:13 -0600
Message-ID: <4AFC27E9.1080601@aptest.com>
To: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
CC: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
FWIW, I think I agree with Mark on this one.  It is low hanging fruit.

Note that no matter what, changes like these are things that relate to a 
future version of RDFa, not to the current version. 

Mark Birbeck wrote:
> Hi Manu,
>
> I'm afraid I still disagree with the priorities here, for the reasons
> explained at [1] and [2].
>
> Whilst some kind of vocabulary extension is of course important, as
> far as I know the only substantial criticism that has been levelled at
> RDFa is its requirement to use CURIEs/prefix mappings, and so I think
> we should really put some effort into addressing that.
>
> Fixing this would be low-hanging fruit, for us.
>
> It simply requires us to agree on how we allow full URIs in @rel,
> @rev, @property, @typeof and @datatype.
>
> (I had a full proposal at [3], which seemed to be supported on the
> list. Toby had an issue with how my proposal related to  existing eRDF
> content, using the example of "dc:creator" -- but this might be
> incorrect, because as far as I can see, eRDF uses dots not colons.)
>
> I realise that Hixie would prefer to have no prefix mappings at all in
> RDFa, but I think that horse has bolted.
>
> But I do think that providing support for full URIs, so that authors
> at least have the choice of whether to use prefixes or not, would go a
> long way towards answering his criticism.
>
> And it's not as if the feature isn't useful, either; when using small
> 'packets' of RDFa, such as on one or two elements, it's often more
> convenient to provide the complete URI, and not bother at all with
> prefix mappings.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> [1] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Oct/0045.html>
> [2] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Oct/0050.html>
> [3] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jul/0062.html>
>
> --
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have a telecon in 1.5 hours, let's try to get a game plan together on
>>  implementing an experimental @vocab extension for extending the list of
>> reserved words.
>>
>> ==========
>> Thursday, November 5th 2009
>> 1500 UTC, W3C Zakim bridge
>> tel:+1.617.761.6200 conference code RDFA
>> irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#rdfa
>> Duration: 60 minutes
>> Scribe: Zakim, pick a victim
>> ==========
>>
>> Agenda:
>>
>> 1) Action Items
>> http://www.w3.org/2009/11/05-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
>>
>> 2) RDFa WG charter updates (short - 10 minutes)
>>
>> 3) @vocab discussion
>>
>> -- manu
>>
>> --
>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny)
>> President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
>> blog: Establishing an Open Digital Media Commerce Standard
>> http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2009/09/28/a-digital-content-commerce-standard/
>>
>>
>>     
>
>   

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