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Re: Telecon Agenda - November 12, 2009, 1600 UTC

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@webbackplane.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:16:22 +0000
Message-ID: <640dd5060911120716u7577a3f7h7435e7bea4186ba0@mail.gmail.com>
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
Cc: RDFa <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Hi Manu,

I'm afraid I still disagree with the priorities here, for the reasons
explained at [1] and [2].

Whilst some kind of vocabulary extension is of course important, as
far as I know the only substantial criticism that has been levelled at
RDFa is its requirement to use CURIEs/prefix mappings, and so I think
we should really put some effort into addressing that.

Fixing this would be low-hanging fruit, for us.

It simply requires us to agree on how we allow full URIs in @rel,
@rev, @property, @typeof and @datatype.

(I had a full proposal at [3], which seemed to be supported on the
list. Toby had an issue with how my proposal related to  existing eRDF
content, using the example of "dc:creator" -- but this might be
incorrect, because as far as I can see, eRDF uses dots not colons.)

I realise that Hixie would prefer to have no prefix mappings at all in
RDFa, but I think that horse has bolted.

But I do think that providing support for full URIs, so that authors
at least have the choice of whether to use prefixes or not, would go a
long way towards answering his criticism.

And it's not as if the feature isn't useful, either; when using small
'packets' of RDFa, such as on one or two elements, it's often more
convenient to provide the complete URI, and not bother at all with
prefix mappings.



[1] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Oct/0045.html>
[2] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Oct/0050.html>
[3] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jul/0062.html>

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> We have a telecon in 1.5 hours, let's try to get a game plan together on
>  implementing an experimental @vocab extension for extending the list of
> reserved words.
> ==========
> Thursday, November 5th 2009
> 1500 UTC, W3C Zakim bridge
> tel:+1.617.761.6200 conference code RDFA
> irc://irc.w3.org:6665/#rdfa
> Duration: 60 minutes
> Scribe: Zakim, pick a victim
> ==========
> Agenda:
> 1) Action Items
> http://www.w3.org/2009/11/05-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
> 2) RDFa WG charter updates (short - 10 minutes)
> 3) @vocab discussion
> -- manu
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny)
> President/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: Establishing an Open Digital Media Commerce Standard
> http://blog.digitalbazaar.com/2009/09/28/a-digital-content-commerce-standard/
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