- From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com>
- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:40:54 +0100
- To: "W3C RDFa task force" <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>
Hello all, During the course of finishing off the Syntax document a couple of issues have popped up. I'll deal with them in separate threads. This thread relates specifically to the way that we ensure that mark-up like this yields the kind of triples we'd expect: <link rel="next" href="o" /> At the moment we say that some kind of preprocessor runs and that the mark-up above is 'mapped' to this: <link rel="xh:next" href="o" /> This is fine, and if we're happy with that, we can just leave it. However, there is another way to come at this, which I'll describe. Myself and Shane changed the CURIE definition recently so that *both* the prefix and the colon were optional: [ [ prefix ] ':' ] reference This is so that all of the following are valid: a:b :b b We did this because the second format is needed in N3 and Turtle-based languages such as SPARQL, whilst the third format is needed if we want to be able to handle legacy QNames. I was therefore looking more closely at what exactly these three different formats should mean since we don't have that defined clearly in our specification. The most obvious route for the second format is to say that it should use the current default namespace, making it consistent with SPARQL, etc. However, there is no general practice for non-prefixed QNames--in some situations the default namespace is used (such as in declarations of type in XML Schema), and in some situations it is explicitly ignored (such as when defining a template in XSLT). This means that we could choose to use the default namespace, or define some other rule like always using the XHTML namespace, or even the current value of [base]. An interesting thing comes about though, if we were to choose to use the default namespace; returning to the syntax we had earlier: <link rel="next" href="o" /> we could obtain a predicate of 'xh:next' without having to do _any_ preprocessing, but *only* if the default namespace was XHTML: <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <title>...</title> <link rel="next" href="o" /> </head> ... </html> I like this approach since I think it gives future authors a lot of flexibility. It also, quite by accident, provides a way to remove the need for a lot of the preprocessing we have been discussing. For example, one could mark-up OpenID using a layout like this: <link rel="openid.server" xmlns="http://openid.net/" href="https://api.screenname.aol.com/auth/openidServer" /> <link rel="openid.delegate" xmlns="http://openid.net/" href="http://openid.aol.com/wezfurlong" /> Note that instead of worrying about trying to make "openid." into some kind of prefix, we simply use the full string as the reference. Anyway, there you have it. The choices seem to be: * have a preprocessing step to get at 'legacy' properties and short-forms, such as xh:next. In this case we'd still need to say what unprefixed CURIEs mean, but wherever we choose would make no difference to the preprocessing step; they could be in the default namespace, the current document, or some explit namespace; * or, we say that CURIEs with no prefix--with or without the colon--use the default namespace, and then leverage this to cope with some of the legacy properties like 'xh:next' and 'openid:openid.delegate' _without_ the need for a preprocesing step. Myself, I can go either way; I'd prefer the second solution, since I think it would be quite neat if we only used the preprocessing step when it is really necessary. This is because although the preprocessing seems pretty benign, we've never really discussed things like the fact that the preprocessor must operate across all of the attributes, in a consistent way. For example, the value of 'next' would need mapping in both @rel and @about, for the following statements to work: <html xmlns:skos="http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#"> <head> <link rel="next" href="o" /> . . . <div about="[next]" instanceof="skos:Concept"> <span property="skos:prefLabel">Next</span> <div property="skos:definitionl"> Refers to the next document in a linear sequence of documents. User agents may choose to preload the "next" document, to reduce the perceived load time. </div> </div> However, if the CURIEs were using the default namespace you can see that this mark-up would 'just work'. Your thoughts and votes please. :) Regards, Mark -- Mark Birbeck, formsPlayer mark.birbeck@formsPlayer.com | +44 (0) 20 7689 9232 http://www.formsPlayer.com | http://internet-apps.blogspot.com standards. innovation.
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