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RE: Updating RDFa_GRDDL stylesheet - progress report

From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:31:47 +0200
Message-ID: <768DACDC356ED04EA1F1130F97D29852012A4FFB@RZJC2EX.jr1.local>
To: "Fabien Gandon" <Fabien.Gandon@sophia.inria.fr>
Cc: <martin@weborganics.co.uk>, "Ivan Herman" <ivan@w3.org>, "Shane McCarron" <shane@aptest.com>, "public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf.w3.org" <public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org>, "Ben Adida" <ben@adida.net>, "Dave Beckett" <dave@dajobe.org>


Fabien,

Great! So let's spot the two stubborn TC:

TC11: Hm. Not sure how I could help here, but let me know
if I can do anything ...

TC29: The additional space is there on purpose; 
      cf. also the review at [1]

BTW, there is a tool that might help you with the
evaluation of the TC. It's rdfa.debug [2] and currently 
it allows you to view the XHTML+RDFa and the ASK query 
side-by-side - well, at least it helped me a lot ;)

Cheers,
	Michael

[1] http://www.w3.org/2007/08/09-rdfa-irc#T15-10-48
[2] http://sw.joanneum.at/rdfa/rdfadebug/index.php

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 Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
 Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
 JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
  
 http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Fabien Gandon [mailto:Fabien.Gandon@sophia.inria.fr] 
>Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:53 PM
>To: Hausenblas, Michael
>Cc: martin@weborganics.co.uk; Ivan Herman; Shane McCarron; 
>public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf.w3.org; Ben Adida; Dave Beckett
>Subject: Re: Updating RDFa_GRDDL stylesheet - progress report
>
>Thanks for the updated pointers Michael!
>I now passes all the tests from 0001 to 0045 except:
> - Test 11 : the produced  triples look good but the 
>projection fails and I have to check why.
> - Test 29 : in the test, the ASK specifies an additional 
>space at the end of the literal value "Mark Birbeck "
>                  Is it a typo or did I miss some space 
>normalization subtleties ?
>
>I also switched my @class template to @instanceof template but 
>I did not test it yet.
>
>As soon as these points are clarified, I should release a new 
>RDFa_GRDDL transform together with a new GRDDL profile for it.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Hausenblas, Michael a écrit : 
>
>	Fabien,
>	
>	Good to see you're making progress ;)
>	
>	Regarding the TC you may be happy to hear that
>	there are less issues as it may look in the first place.
>	
>	Just to make sure we're talking about the same document -
>	(saw you're referring to eg. sec 5.1.2.1 which does not
>	exists in the newest Syntax doc):
>	
>	http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-rdfa-syntax-20070906/
>	
>	is the good place to look at, and there, mainly sec. 4!
>	
>	So to make life easier, I suggest you take a look at
>	
>	http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFaTC
>	
>	There at the very beginning, you have a link that lists
>	the APPROVED TC ('list approved Test Cases ...') - some
>	of the TC you're having troubles with are actually on hold.
>	
>	Regarding the literal/values/datatypes - thess seem 
>	correct to me, looking at [1].
>	
>	In case you want some further support, just shout out :)
>	
>	Cheers,
>		Michael
>	
>	BTW: I'm as well available on skype as 'mhausenblas'
>	
>	[1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa/LiteralObject
>	
>	
>	----------------------------------------------------------
>	 Michael Hausenblas, MSc.
>	 Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
>	 JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
>	 Steyrergasse 17, A-8010 Graz, AUSTRIA
>	---------------------------------------------------------- 
>	
>	  
>
>		-----Original Message-----
>		From: Fabien Gandon 
>[mailto:Fabien.Gandon@sophia.inria.fr] 
>		Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:59 PM
>		To: martin@weborganics.co.uk; Ivan Herman; Hausenblas, 
>		Michael; Shane McCarron; 
>public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf.w3.org; Ben 
>		Adida; Dave Beckett
>		Subject: Updating RDFa_GRDDL stylesheet - 
>progress report
>		
>		Hello,
>		
>		I am working on a new version of the RDFa_GRDDL 
>stylesheet.
>		So far it integrates:
>		 - differences I found running a diff between my latest 
>		version and the version Dave Beckett sent me
>		 - new attributes and associated tests: resource, src
>		 
>		
>		However I have a number of questions concerning 
>the current 
>		test suite:
>		
>http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/
>		
>		
>		Tests 0001, 0002, 0003, 0020, 0021, 0022, 0023, 
>0024, 0025, 0033:
>		I failed these tests because the SPARQL query 
>does not specify the 
>		datatype. My reading of section 5.1.1 of the 
>syntax document 
>		is that in 
>		these cases the literal value (e.g. "Mark 
>Birbeck", "Ben 
>		Adida") should 
>		be typed rdf:XMLLiteral since it is not in a "content" 
>		attribute. E.g. 
>		for test 0001 I produce this triple but fail 
>the corresponding ASK:
>		<rdf:Description 
>		
>rdf:about="http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1
>		-testcases/photo1.jpg" 
><http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/
photo1.jpg> >
>		<dc:creator 
>xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" 
><http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/>  
>		
>rdf:datatype="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#XMLLi
>		    
>
>	teral">Mark 
>	  
>
>		Birbeck</dc:creator>
>		</rdf:Description>
>		
>		Unless I am mistaken, the SPARQL queries of 
>these tests should either 
>		specify the datatype or use the string function 
>of SPARQL to 
>		filter the 
>		value independently from the datatype.
>		(NB: in section "5.1.2.1. Literal from string 
>value of meta" 
>		the example 
>		does not correspond to a tag "meta")
>		
>		
>		Test 0011:
>		1, In my understanding "Albert Einstein" should 
>be typed 
>		rdf:XMLLiteral
>		2, Instead of generating
>		  E = mc<sup>2</sup>: The Most Urgent Problem 
>of Our Time
>		I generate:
>		  E = mc<sup 
>xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml>  
>		
>xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" 
><http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance> >2</sup>:
>		 The Most 
>		Urgent Problem of Our Time
>		
>		Any opinion on this second case? (apart from 
>the fact that 
>		xmlns:xsi=... 
>		is useless)
>		
>		
>		Test 0028: I fail because I interpret the 
>attribute datatype="" as an 
>		XMLLiteral datatype ; I couldn't find in the 
>specs what the 
>		empty string 
>		should represent for a datatype
>		
>		
>		Test 0029: I fail the test because the ASK specifies an 
>		additional space 
>		in the literal value "Mark Birbeck " which I 
>don't have since I 
>		normalize embedded text when they have a datatype.
>		
>		
>		In addition if there have been any changes of 
>the spec lately that I 
>		should be aware of please do not hesitate to 
>mention them.
>		
>		Cheers,
>		
>		-- 
>		Fabien - http://ns.inria.fr/fabien.gandon/
>		
>		    
>
>
>-- 
>Fabien - http://ns.inria.fr/fabien.gandon/
>
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