- From: tessaris <tessaris@inf.unibz.it>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:02:39 +0100
- To: "Seaborne, Andy" <andy.seaborne@hp.com>
- CC: RDF Data Access Working Group <public-rdf-dawg@w3.org>
Seaborne, Andy wrote:
>
> Should have been send to the WG list.
>
> Andy
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
>>From: Seaborne, Andy <>
>>Date: 23 January 2006 13:27
>>
>>I have chnaged the grammar to reflect the clarification of BGPs and
>>constraints by putting a rule in that is called BasicGraphPattern.
>>
>>The case of:
>>{ _:a :p ?v . FILTER(?v <3) . _:a : ?w }
>>
>>I have changed:
>> Moved constraint into a BasicGraphPattern rule
>> Created BlockOfTriples for a sequnece of triple patterns (this was
>>"Triples")
>> Moved BlockOfTriples and BasicGraphPattern to be with the other
>> pattern rules Renamed Triples1 to TriplesSameSubject
>> Removed recursion in TriplesSameSubject
>>
>> Andy
Andy, I understand the reasons for the changes but I'm not sure whether
they match everybody's intuition.
I think that we agree on the fact that SPARQL operators transform answer
sets (set of pattern solutions) rather than single pattern solutions.
Under this assumption I see FILTER as the relational (not SQL) SELECT
operator. So I don't see any reason for restricting its usage to Basic
Graph Pattern only. E.g. I think that a query like
{ BGP1 UNION BGP2 } FILTER (E1)
should be fine; but it seems to me that the new grammar is preventing this.
When during the telecon I said that 'FILTERS' can be pushed at the end I
meant that
{ _:a :p ?v . FILTER(?v <3) . _:a : ?w }
should be understood as
{ _:a :p ?v . _:a : ?w } FILTER(?v <3)
I'm not sure how to reflect this on the actual grammar, though.
Then I think that having the definition
""""
Definition: Basic Graph Pattern
A Basic Graph Pattern is a set of Triple Patterns.
"""
together with the grammar rule
[21] BasicGraphPattern ::= BlockOfTriples? ( Constraint '.'?
BasicGraphPattern )?
looks confusing; since we have Constraints as well as triple patterns.
I'd rather prefer something closer to the old grammar, to be sure that a
Basic Graph Pattern is always a leaf in the parse tree:
[20] GraphPattern ::= FilteredBasicGraphPattern? (
GraphPatternNotTriples '.'? GraphPattern )?
[21] GraphPatternNotTriples ::= OptionalGraphPattern |
GroupOrUnionGraphPattern | GraphGraphPattern | Constraint
with the rule
FilteredBasicGraphPattern ::= BlockOfTriples? ( Constraint '.'?
FilteredBasicGraphPattern )?
and a comment on the fact that 'BoT1 constraint BoT2' should be
considered equivalent to '{ BoT1 . BoT2 } constraint'.
Cheers,
--sergio
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