- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:51:18 +0200
- To: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>, W3C RDB2RDF <public-rdb2rdf-wg@w3.org>, www-rdf-validator@w3.org
Richard, I did the only thing I could do: act as a go-between:-) Hopefully some of your remarks will be taken into account. I hope to be able to follow up... Cheers Ivan On Jun 22, 2012, at 17:42 , Richard Cyganiak wrote: > On 22 Jun 2012, at 15:40, Ivan Herman wrote: >> As you can easily imagine, the issue is manpower. We, in the W3C team, simply have no manpower available to actively maintain the RDF validator. > > Put a big badge on it saying, “SEEKING CONTRIBUTORS/SPONSORS”. > >> The validator has been updated since 2006, actually (it now uses the latest version of Jena as a response to some security issue); > > Ok, good. > >> but nobody really maintains the code itself. Instead, the validator code has been put onto github: >> >> https://github.com/w3c/rdfvalidator-ng >> >> meaning that anybody can download and use the validator locally > > That's great, actually. > > This should really be mentioned here: > http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/documentation > > That page points people in wrong directions and makes the whole project look a lot worse than it actually is. > > Sticking the documentation page into the GitHub repository would be a good step towards that. > >> and, *of course*, we would love and would incorporate patches to be deployed at the W3C site. > > I fear that the specific issue mentioned by Kingsley is an issue with W3C's networking, and not a bug in the code. See my report here: > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html > > Best, > Richard > > > >> But, I am afraid, that is where we are today... >> >> Cheers >> >> Ivan >> >> >> >> On Jun 22, 2012, at 16:13 , Richard Cyganiak wrote: >> >>> Ivan, >>> >>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:39, Ivan Herman wrote: >>>> www-rdf-validator@w3.org >>>> >>>> The page gives a problem report form... >>> >>> The last time someone from W3C has responded to something reported on this address was in 2009. >>> >>> The last time the validator code has been touched was apparently in 2006. >>> >>> People report the same problems with the validator over and over again, to the sound of crickets chirping. A few sightings of the very problem that Kingsley just mentioned: >>> >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0000.html >>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2011Feb/0000.html >>> >>> Best, >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Ivan >>>> >>>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 15:23 , Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Who deals with issues such as: >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED >>>>>> >>>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Good question. I was unable [1] to figure who's responsible for this space but hope Ivan can help us? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/ns/,tools >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>> >>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:12, Kingsley Idehen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/22/12 8:58 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>> Boris, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks a lot for fixing the table. As an aside: I think it would be fair to change the order of editorship - you're the main person and have done the majority of the work, I'm just helping out ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Michael >>>>>> >>>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> Who deals with issues such as: >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED >>>>>> >>>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kingsley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 13:55, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Boris, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1]. >>>>>>>>> That's awesome, thanks a million! Just a minor thing: can you please fix the 'Home' column of Table 1 and Table 2 so that they point to the right impl as per http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations …? >>>>>>>> Done. >>>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following >>>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm ok >>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml ok >>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm ok >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cool. Can you already generate the impl vs. TC Table 3. out of the EARL reports? >>>>>>>> Not yet …. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Boris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 11:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1]. >>>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following >>>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm ok >>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml ok >>>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm ok >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Boris >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done. >>>>>>>>>>> Excellent, thanks! Can you please prioritise the first two things (draft IR and EARL reports validity) so that we have this maybe a bit earlier, and then focus on the Morph EARL report? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2012, at 09:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, all >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Boris, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In today's telecon we have discussed the next steps towards PR. One essential document is the Implementation Report. Can you please, based on the table [1], check if we can use the provided EARL reports to generate the HTML table which would have the implementations as column headings and the TC as row headings - see for example [2] how this could look like (where you can ignore everything else besides section 3. for now). Independent of if the EARL reports are useable, can I please ask you to draft the IR at [3] (you can simply reuse the content from [2] and remove non-relevant bits)? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> By this Friday 22 June we should report back to the WG re our progress (and expect the three remaining EARL reports from yourself, Richard and Eric to be integrated). >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll >>>>>>>>>>>> - draft IR at [3] >>>>>>>>>>>> - check the EARL reports >>>>>>>>>>>> - try to have a first version of morph EARL report >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Boris >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracker, this completes my ACTION-206. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations#PR_transition_-_Implementation_Report >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kingsley Idehen >>>>>> Founder & CEO >>>>>> OpenLink Software >>>>>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >>>>>> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >>>>>> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen >>>>>> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about >>>>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ---- >> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +31-641044153 >> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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