- From: Richard Cyganiak <richard@cyganiak.de>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:42:01 +0100
- To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>, W3C RDB2RDF <public-rdb2rdf-wg@w3.org>, www-rdf-validator@w3.org
On 22 Jun 2012, at 15:40, Ivan Herman wrote: > As you can easily imagine, the issue is manpower. We, in the W3C team, simply have no manpower available to actively maintain the RDF validator. Put a big badge on it saying, “SEEKING CONTRIBUTORS/SPONSORS”. > The validator has been updated since 2006, actually (it now uses the latest version of Jena as a response to some security issue); Ok, good. > but nobody really maintains the code itself. Instead, the validator code has been put onto github: > > https://github.com/w3c/rdfvalidator-ng > > meaning that anybody can download and use the validator locally That's great, actually. This should really be mentioned here: http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/documentation That page points people in wrong directions and makes the whole project look a lot worse than it actually is. Sticking the documentation page into the GitHub repository would be a good step towards that. > and, *of course*, we would love and would incorporate patches to be deployed at the W3C site. I fear that the specific issue mentioned by Kingsley is an issue with W3C's networking, and not a bug in the code. See my report here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html Best, Richard > But, I am afraid, that is where we are today... > > Cheers > > Ivan > > > > On Jun 22, 2012, at 16:13 , Richard Cyganiak wrote: > >> Ivan, >> >> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:39, Ivan Herman wrote: >>> www-rdf-validator@w3.org >>> >>> The page gives a problem report form... >> >> The last time someone from W3C has responded to something reported on this address was in 2009. >> >> The last time the validator code has been touched was apparently in 2006. >> >> People report the same problems with the validator over and over again, to the sound of crickets chirping. A few sightings of the very problem that Kingsley just mentioned: >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0002.html >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2012Apr/0000.html >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-validator/2011Feb/0000.html >> >> Best, >> Richard >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Ivan >>> >>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 15:23 , Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> Who deals with issues such as: >>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED >>>>> >>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Good question. I was unable [1] to figure who's responsible for this space but hope Ivan can help us? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/ns/,tools >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>> Ireland, Europe >>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>> >>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 14:12, Kingsley Idehen wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/22/12 8:58 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>> Boris, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot for fixing the table. As an aside: I think it would be fair to change the order of editorship - you're the main person and have done the majority of the work, I'm just helping out ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> Who deals with issues such as: >>>>> http://www.w3.org/RDF/Validator/ARPServlet?URI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fns%2Fearl.rdf&PARSE=Parse+URI%3A+&TRIPLES_AND_GRAPH=PRINT_TRIPLES&FORMAT=PNG_EMBED >>>>> >>>>> I was hoping to load these testsuite results into a quad store and then explore the linked data graphs etc.. >>>>> >>>>> Kingsley >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 13:55, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Michael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Boris, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1]. >>>>>>>> That's awesome, thanks a million! Just a minor thing: can you please fix the 'Home' column of Table 1 and Table 2 so that they point to the right impl as per http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations …? >>>>>>> Done. >>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following >>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm ok >>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml ok >>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm ok >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cool. Can you already generate the impl vs. TC Table 3. out of the EARL reports? >>>>>>> Not yet …. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Boris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 11:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Michael >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've created the first version of the implementation report [1]. >>>>>>>>> Regarding the EARL reports, so far I made an initial checking of the following >>>>>>>>> - d2rq-dm ok >>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress r2rml ok >>>>>>>>> - ultrawrap-postgress dm ok >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Boris >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done. >>>>>>>>>> Excellent, thanks! Can you please prioritise the first two things (draft IR and EARL reports validity) so that we have this maybe a bit earlier, and then focus on the Morph EARL report? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 20 Jun 2012, at 09:19, Boris Villazon-Terrazas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael, all >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Boris, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In today's telecon we have discussed the next steps towards PR. One essential document is the Implementation Report. Can you please, based on the table [1], check if we can use the provided EARL reports to generate the HTML table which would have the implementations as column headings and the TC as row headings - see for example [2] how this could look like (where you can ignore everything else besides section 3. for now). Independent of if the EARL reports are useable, can I please ask you to draft the IR at [3] (you can simply reuse the content from [2] and remove non-relevant bits)? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> By this Friday 22 June we should report back to the WG re our progress (and expect the three remaining EARL reports from yourself, Richard and Eric to be integrated). >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'll >>>>>>>>>>> - draft IR at [3] >>>>>>>>>>> - check the EARL reports >>>>>>>>>>> - try to have a first version of morph EARL report >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> By Friday night I'll send you an email reporting the things I've done. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Boris >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tracker, this completes my ACTION-206. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations#PR_transition_-_Implementation_Report >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/implementation-report/ >>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/implementation-report/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Michael Hausenblas, Research Fellow >>>>>>>>>>>> DERI - Digital Enterprise Research Institute >>>>>>>>>>>> NUIG - National University of Ireland, Galway >>>>>>>>>>>> Ireland, Europe >>>>>>>>>>>> Tel.: +353 91 495730 >>>>>>>>>>>> WebID: http://sw-app.org/mic.xhtml#i >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Kingsley Idehen >>>>> Founder & CEO >>>>> OpenLink Software >>>>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >>>>> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >>>>> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen >>>>> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about >>>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > ---- > Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > mobile: +31-641044153 > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > > > > > >
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