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From: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 02:48:33 -0700
To: "PBG Steering Committee \(Public\)" <public-publishing-sc@w3.org>
Cc: "Avneesh Singh" <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004301d35ec0$1142ab30$33c80190$@montana.com>
Dear Steering Committee,

I believe that this is on the W3C and the SC radar, but wanted to make sure
that is getting covered.
NISO members are also asked to vote and add comments. I want to make sure
what I say there is in line with the W3C comments.

Best
George
-----Original Message-----
From: Toshiko Kimura [mailto:kimura@itscj.ipsj.or.jp] 
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 2:47 AM
To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>
Cc: 'MURATA Makoto' <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>; 'Francis Cave'
<francis@franciscave.com>; 'Yong-Sang Cho' <zzosang@gmail.com>; 'Sam Oh'
<samoh21@gmail.com>; 'George Kerscher' <kerscher@montana.com>; 'Bill
Kasdorf' <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>; 'Ivan Herman' <ivan@w3.org>; 'Rachel
Comerford' <rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>; 'Cramer, Dave'
<Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>; 'Garth Conboy' <garth@google.com>; 'Siegman,
Tzviya - Hoboken' <tsiegman@wiley.com>
Subject: Re: W3C review of PDTS 22424-1/2, EPUB 3 Preservation

Dear Bill,

Thank you for your arrangements for collecting comments
As the PDTS documents are now under committee level ballot, we would
appreciate receiving comments as a contribution of W3C rather than from
individual experts.

As mentioned by Francis, the SC 34 ballot closes 2017-12-11.  I have
checked that the SC 46/SC 4 ballot closes 2017-12-28.  
If W3C has a difficulty to send us comments by 2017-12-28, please let me
know.  I will discuss with the SC 34/JWG 7 co-convenors who will make
arrangements of resolution of comments.

Please send us the comments by e-mail.  

Best regards,

Toshiko Kimura
Secretary of ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34



On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 14:33:50 -0800
"Bill McCoy" <bmccoy@w3.org> wrote:
> Thanks!
>  W3C co-chairs ? shall I forward these links on your behalf to the CG & WG
(and BG for good measure)? I would propose to include the punchline from
Francis' request:"On behalf of SC 34 I would like to invite W3C experts to
review and comment upon these draft specifications. The ballot period in SC
34 will close on December 11, but later in ISO TC 46/SC 4. Our Secretary, Ms
Toshiko Kimura, will confirm the deadline by which comments must be
submitted" and a ?statement like: "Whether providing collective feedback on
these specs, or other relevant intersections, should be an agenda topic in
upcoming WG/CG/BG meeting(s) is TBD ? if you have input about that please
contact the chairs of the appropriate group(s). Meanwhile we will forward
comment deadline and info on how to make individual comments shortly".
>  (Francis or Kimura-san perhaps you can also advise how individuals should
submit comments - presumably via email?)
>  --Bill
>  
>  From: eb2mmrt@gmail.com [mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com] On Behalf Of MURATA
Makoto
>  Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 2:27 PM
>  To: Francis Cave <francis@franciscave.com>
>  Cc: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>; Yong-Sang Cho <zzosang@gmail.com>; Sam Oh
<samoh21@gmail.com>; Toshiko Kimura <kimura@itscj.ipsj.or.jp>; George
Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>; Bill Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>;
Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>; Rachel Comerford
<rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>; Cramer, Dave <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>;
Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>; Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken
<tsiegman@wiley.com>
>  Subject: Re: W3C review of PDTS 22424-1/2, EPUB 3 Preservation
>  
>  The links are: 
>
http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=19297971&objAction=Open
&viewType=1
>
http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink?func=ll&objId=19298776&objAction=Open
&viewType=1
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  Regards,
>  
>  Makoto
>  
>  
>  
>  2017-11-07 7:17 GMT+09:00 Francis Cave <francis@franciscave.com>:
> > Murata-san, Bill
> > 
> > My understanding is that Open documents can be linked to and downloaded
for personal review purposes, but ? as we have learned in the past ? copies
must not be stored in public archives. ISO lawyers are very vigorous in
pursuing breaches of their copyright terms.
> > 
> > Maybe the best thing would be simply for us to share the links to the
publicly-accessible copies that are in the SC 34 document library
(<https://maps.google.com/?q=SC+34+N+2457&amp;entry=gmail&amp;source=g>SC 34
N 2457 and 2458), and request that only these links should be publicly
shared/archived and not the documents themselves.
> > 
> > If my understanding is wrong, I'm sure that Kimura-san will put me
right.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Francis
> > 
> > 
> > Francis Cave
> > Chair, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: eb2mmrt@gmail.com [mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com] On Behalf Of MURATA
Makoto
> > Sent: 06 November 2017 22:03
> > To: Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>
> > Cc: Yong-Sang Cho <zzosang@gmail.com>; Sam Oh <samoh21@gmail.com>;
Toshiko Kimura <kimura@itscj.ipsj.or.jp>; Francis Cave
<francis@franciscave.com>; George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>; Bill
Kasdorf <bkasdorf@apexcovantage.com>; Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>; Rachel
Comerford <rachel.comerford@macmillan.com>; Cramer, Dave
<Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>; Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>; Siegman, Tzviya -
Hoboken <tsiegman@wiley.com>; MURATA Makoto (FAMILY Given)
<eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>
> > Subject: Re: W3C review of PDTS 22424-1/2, EPUB 3 Preservation
> > 
> > Bill,
> > 
> > 
> > I will send you PDTS 22424-1 and -2 in a separate mail.  As W3C is a
liaison, 
> > 
> > I believe that W3C is notified when new SC34 numbered documents 
> > 
> > are published.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Kimura-san,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > These documents are classified as "Other document (Open)".  Does 
> > 
> > this mean that they can be disclosed to the public?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Who in W3C is notified when new SC34 documents are published?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yoroshiku Onegai Shimasu.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Makoto
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 2017-11-07 6:09 GMT+09:00 Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org>:
> >> Dear Murata-san,
> >> 
> >> Could you please provide the documents in question ASAP? Apparently as
of now they haven't yet been provided to EPUB 3 CG or W3C Publishing WG
members (I cc: the co-chairs). 
> >> 
> >> Dear Francis, thanks very much for your note. Could you clarify if it's
acceptable if the draft documents are attached or linked to in emails that
are publicly archived (as W3C WG and CG emails are by default) or do they
need to be disseminated in email that is not publicly archived (which is
possible if necessary)?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> --Bill
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> From: Francis Cave
[mailto:<mailto:francis@franciscave.com>francis@franciscave.com] 
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:45 AM
> >> To: Bill McCoy <<mailto:bmccoy@w3.org>bmccoy@w3.org>
> >> Cc: Yong-Sang Cho <<mailto:zzosang@gmail.com>zzosang@gmail.com>; Sam Oh
<<mailto:samoh21@gmail.com>samoh21@gmail.com>; 'MURATA Makoto'
<<mailto:eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>; 'Toshiko
Kimura' <<mailto:kimura@itscj.ipsj.or.jp>kimura@itscj.ipsj.or.jp>
> >> Subject: W3C review of PDTS 22424-1/2, EPUB 3 Preservation
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Dear Bill
> >> 
> >> I would like to draw your attention to a ballot currently being
conducted on PDTS 22424 EPUB 3 Preservation, a proposed Technical
Specification in two Parts:
> >> 
> >> PDTS 22424-1 EPUB 3 Preservation ? Part 1: Metadata requirementsPDTS
22424-2 EPUB 3 Preservation ? Part 2: Principles
> >> 
> >> On behalf of SC 34 I would like to invite W3C experts to review and
comment upon these draft specifications. The ballot period in SC 34 will
close on December 11, but later in ISO TC 46/SC 4. Our Secretary, Ms Toshiko
Kimura, will confirm the deadline by which comments must be submitted.
> >> 
> >> As W3C is a liaison organisation in SC 34/JWG 7 (the Working Group
responsible for developing PDTS 22424) you are already entitled to review
JWG 7 documents, copies of which may be obtained through Dr Makoto Murata,
liaison officer from SC 34 to W3C. The documents in question are JWG 7 N 63
and N 64. If you have any difficulty obtaining copies of these documents for
review, please alert Murata-san or Kimura-san.
> >> 
> >> Kind regards,
> >> 
> >> Francis
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Francis Cave
> >> Chair, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> -- 
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> Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake
> 
> Makoto
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> -- 
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> Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake
> 
> Makoto
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