- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:50:20 +0200
- To: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
- Cc: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
On Apr 30, 2013, at 14:46 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: > Ivan, > > On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: > >> >> On Apr 30, 2013, at 14:08 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: >> >>> Ivan, >>> >>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o >>> >>> is redirecting to: >>> >>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl >> >> Well... this is the URI it has to redirect to: it is the provenance information for prov-o. > > My apologies, I temporarily confused the provenance of prov vs. prov namespace concatenation work. (I'm just spinning up for the day without the aid of coffee…) > > When I said > "Shouldn't http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o be redirecting to /ns", I meant > "Shouldn't http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o be directing to somewhere OTHER than within https://dvcs.w3.org/hg?" > > IIRC, the redirects into mercurial were a temporary development solution. > It was my impression that those files would get a real home somewhere "more permanent" in your w3.org CVS-land. Yes, that is also my understanding. I hope that at some point those files become stable; when I get the green light from our chairs:-) I plan to install those in the /prov/provenance directory and change the redirections. But, afaik, Paul and/or Luc want still to massage those a bit after we are over the publication hurdle... > > >> >> The issue is: why is >> >> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl >> >> identical to the ns/prov-o.ttl? > > By ns/prov-o.ttl, do you mean http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o ? > > If so, I don't see how the response from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o is identical to the response of https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl > Their responses differ significantly. > Sorry. It was just a superficial view of mine, you are right. > To be sure, I added another check in the namespace test https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/rev/e269faf53182 > and it is content (pun accidental): > > prov/namespace$ bin/test-w3org.sh > > pass: text/turtle from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov matches releases/prov-20130430/prov.ttl > pass: application/rdf+xml from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov matches releases/prov-20130430/prov.owl > pass: application/xml from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov matches prov.xsd > > pass: text/turtle from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o matches prov-o.ttl > pass: application/rdf+xml from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o matches prov-o.owl > > pass: text/turtle from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o-inverses matches prov-o-inverses.ttl > pass: application/rdf+xml from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o-inverses matches prov-o-inverses.owl > > pass: text/turtle from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-links matches prov-links.ttl > pass: application/rdf+xml from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-links matches prov-links.owl > pass: application/xml from http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-links matches prov-links.xsd > > pass: text/turtle from http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o matches ../provenance/prov-o.ttl > pass: application/rdf+xml from http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o matches ../provenance/prov-o.rdf > > > >> It should not, it should contain provenance info! > > https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-o.ttl contains provenance of prov-o. > > http://www.w3.org/ns/prov-o contains the OWL definitions of prov-o. > > These are different things, and they look correct to me. > > What does not look correct is the redirect from http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/provenance/prov-o that lands into mercurial. I like the content, just not where the content is residing. > See above! Ivan > >> >> For all other documents, the same redirection leads to >> >> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/provenance/prov-family.ttl >> >> per what Luc gave me yesterday, but the prov-o was an exception. I do not know why; this is something I was not involved with… > > Yes, this is what I understand to be the intent. Except the mercurial home for everything. > > Regards, > Tim > >> >> Ivan >> >>> >>> Shouldn't this be redirecting to /ns? >>> Right content, wrong place, I think. >>> >>> -Tim >>> >>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I *think* this has been done, we had a round of updates of the prov-o files; can one of you check whether this is still an open action? >>>> >>>> Ivan >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 15:42 , Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Paul. >>>>> >>>>> @Ivan can you push hg/provenance/prov-o.ttl to w3.org? >>>>> >>>>> -Tim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This needs to get pushed to the right provenance location. >>>>>> >>>>>> And then were cool I think >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 15:27, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tweaked the prov-o provenance to align with some of Luc's URI in prov-family, and to update the version URIs described: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/rev/7f4f8bf7c9f6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are these just getting pushed to w3.org/ns, or is there more coordination to do? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >>>> mobile: +31-641044153 >>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> ---- >> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ >> mobile: +31-641044153 >> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ mobile: +31-641044153 FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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