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Re: updates of prov namespace

From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:33:24 +0200
Message-ID: <CAJCyKRpMQ5u7n77LnnHWbCwVq0L1xiJ6rTsx8-JGQKVrrA1UMg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Ok... maybe it would be the grammar then that's equivalent to an
xsd/ontology, right?

So yeah maybe not.

cheers
Paul


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:

>
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:27 , Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ivan,
> >
> > I was talking about the http://www.w3.org/ns/prov
>
> Hm. Then I am not sure. ns/prov is the namespace document for the OWL
> ontology (which have covered) and for the XSD document. Per spec, conneg
> means the same information represented in different format, and a choice
> thereof; although the xsd may be a little bit of a stretch, it still fits
> this picture. But a provenance notation is describing the provenance of
> something, which is a different information than the ontology. So my
> initial reaction is that this would not be part of a conneg.
>
> I may still misunderstand what you ask, though...
>
> Ivan
>
> >
> > but I agree we should do the provenance as well but I think that's being
> sorted out.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 29, 2013, at 08:49 , Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ivan, Tim
> > >
> > > @Ivan: Can you update the namespace with overview.html in the
> /namespace directory?
> >
> > Done.
> >
> > >
> > > @Ivan: when I content negotiation for text/provenance-notation -
> should we get something back?
> > >
> >
> > You mean in /2011/prov/provenance ?
> >
> > It would be nice indeed; after all, we have provenance syntax other than
> RDF. For a complete, and ideal picture, though, this is what we should have:
> >
> > - Turtle file (we have those)
> > - RDF/XML (we can easily transform turtle files into RDF/XML with
> available RDF tools)
> > - provenance-notation, if you guys give me those:-)
> > - Prov XML, again, if you guys give me those...
> >
> > I am happy to do the second item as soon as the turtle files are final
> (they are mostly stubs at the moment), but I am not sure how to do item #3
> and #4.
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> >
> > > @Tim looking at the concatenated version you point to mercurial urls
> for the dm and n (e.g.
> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Association)
> . Can we point to the correct dated urls? I think this is coming from
> prov-o?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > - The Network Institute
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> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead
> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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