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Re: updates of prov namespace

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:31:09 +0200
Cc: Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <6695C718-C35C-4437-A6B8-2FEEB65E2551@w3.org>
To: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>

On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:27 , Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:

> Hi Ivan,
> 
> I was talking about the http://www.w3.org/ns/prov 

Hm. Then I am not sure. ns/prov is the namespace document for the OWL ontology (which have covered) and for the XSD document. Per spec, conneg means the same information represented in different format, and a choice thereof; although the xsd may be a little bit of a stretch, it still fits this picture. But a provenance notation is describing the provenance of something, which is a different information than the ontology. So my initial reaction is that this would not be part of a conneg.

I may still misunderstand what you ask, though...

Ivan

> 
> but I agree we should do the provenance as well but I think that's being sorted out.
> 
> Thanks
> Paul
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
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> On Apr 29, 2013, at 08:49 , Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote:
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> > Hi Ivan, Tim
> >
> > @Ivan: Can you update the namespace with overview.html in the /namespace directory?
> 
> Done.
> 
> >
> > @Ivan: when I content negotiation for text/provenance-notation - should we get something back?
> >
> 
> You mean in /2011/prov/provenance ?
> 
> It would be nice indeed; after all, we have provenance syntax other than RDF. For a complete, and ideal picture, though, this is what we should have:
> 
> - Turtle file (we have those)
> - RDF/XML (we can easily transform turtle files into RDF/XML with available RDF tools)
> - provenance-notation, if you guys give me those:-)
> - Prov XML, again, if you guys give me those...
> 
> I am happy to do the second item as soon as the turtle files are final (they are mostly stubs at the moment), but I am not sure how to do item #3 and #4.
> 
> Ivan
> 
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> > @Tim looking at the concatenated version you point to mercurial urls for the dm and n (e.g. http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-Association) . Can we point to the correct dated urls? I think this is coming from prov-o?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Paul
> >
> >
> 
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