Re: provenance of prov documents

Hi Luc,


2013/4/26 Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>

>  Hi Daniel,
>
> I haven't used revision, but simply derivation, for the whole prov-family.
> Are you suggesting to change this in most places?
>
I'm not sure about the rest, but in the case of the DC note yes. It is a
revision from the previous WD.

>
> I don't think (as indicated many times) that we should use wasInfluencedBy
> in that way.
> It goes against what we recommend in our specs.
>
I would suggest to replace it with wasDerivedFrom, but it would be weird to
say that a document was derived from one
of its parts... I guess it's okay to remove the statement.
Thanks,
Daniel

>
> Luc
>
>
> On 04/26/2013 01:12 PM, Daniel Garijo wrote:
>
>   Hi Luc,
>  I have checked the assertions about prov dc.
>  You have covered almost all the ones I had in the .ttl file for the
> latest release of the note,
>  so I'll be happy with the redirection to the bigger PROV file. Nice work!
>
>  Could you please add these 2?
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/NOTE-prov-dc-20130430/>
>     prov:wasRevisionOf <http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-dc-20130312/>;
>     prov:wasInfluencedBy <
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/NOTE-prov-dc-20130430/#acknowledgements>.
>
>  Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>
> 2013/4/22 Tom De Nies <tom.denies@ugent.be>
>
>> Hi Luc,
>>
>> thanks for creating this record, and in the process, creating a nice
>> example of PROV-Dictionary!
>> I've checked the provenance for prov-dictionary, and it looks good. (Easy
>> check with only 2 revisions :) )
>>
>> Do we want to extract the separate provenance for each document or keep
>> it in 1 big file? If the latter, which URL will we be using? (So I can
>> include it in the staged Note)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/4/9 Luc Moreau <l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
>>
>>> Editors, all,
>>>
>>> Ahead of Thursday's teleconference, I wanted to invite you to review a
>>> file that I produced describing
>>> the provenance of our documents. I am proposing to use this as the
>>> provenance for prov-dm/n/constraints.
>>> Other editors may want to use it for their own document.
>>>
>>> Could you look at the document and check that descriptions are correct.
>>> In particular,
>>> authorship/revisions/etc need to be checked.
>>>
>>> As an author, you may want to check that you are acknowledged too.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.04.11#Provenance_of_documents
>>>
>>> Obviously, much more can be included (minutes, decisions, etc), but I
>>> will let someone else to
>>> write it ;-)
>>>
>>> Once we are happy with the file, some hand-crafting of the rdf, and
>>> probably xml will be required.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Luc
>>>
>>> PS. I am also making use of prov-dictionary and prov-dc here.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Professor Luc Moreau
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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> Professor Luc Moreau
> Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
> University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
> Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
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