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Re: PROV-DC: dct:isVersionOf usage

From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:15:30 +0100
Message-ID: <CAPRnXtmK2m_wLSxHv85g5=C5q3Bw=QaJNgp+sNYAsONv9Vd=PQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
Cc: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
As I said before, the TTL of DC Terms itself uses the (implied)
inverse dct:hasVersion in exactly the same fashion as I've described,
so I don't believe it's anything unusual.

http://dublincore.org/2012/06/14/dcterms.ttl

Even by definition, I would argue that prov:wasRevisionOf does not
cover generally adaptation, "revision" implies some kind of authority
and update. Making a movie version of the theatre play "My Fair Lady"
is certainly derivation, but not revisioning.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Garijo
<dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es> wrote:
> Hi Paul, Stian.
> Thanks for the examples Stian. Before agreeing I want to analyze them.
>
> The only reason why we made "isVersionOf" and "wasRevisionOf" equivalent was
> because
> neither PROV or DC defined the attributes of a "version" and a "revision".
> DC isVersionOf: a related resource to which the current resource is a
> version, edition or adaptation
> PROV wasRevisionOf: a derivation for which the resulting entity is a revised
> version of some original
> since revision doesn't have any attributes defined, we could consider
> "adaptation" included in there.
>
> Let me check whether these examples fit in the definitions or not (it could
> also happen that the vocabulary was not
> used correctly in the examples). I'll look into it later today.
> Best,
> Daniel
>
>
> 2013/4/16 Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
>>
>> Hi Daniel, all
>>
>> Are there objections to making prov:wasRevisionOf a subProperty of
>> dct:isVersionOf.
>>
>> From my perspective, this is a bit disappointing as it makes querying dct
>> from prov harder. You couldn't query on prov:wasRevisionOf and get
>> dct:isVersionOf back.
>>
>> However, I won't object to this change.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here are some examples I found on Sindice of using dct:isVersionOf in
>>> the style of prov:specializationOf:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://sindice.com/search?q=&nq=(*%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fdc%2Fterms%2FisVersionOf%3E%20*)&fq=&interface=advanced
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/154/versions/11>
>>> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/isVersionOf>
>>> <http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/154> .
>>>
>>> <http://www.gyldendal.no/toraage/gullhjelmen/gullhjelmen
>>> 1.html>
>>> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/isVersionOf>
>>> <http://www.akerbaek.no/dramatispersonae/act/bringsværd/gullhjelmen1>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/obo/hao.owl#HAO_0000000>
>>> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/isVersionOf>
>>> <http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/HAO_000000> .
>>>
>>>
>>> I would argue none of these are prov:wasRevisionOf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.legislation.gov.uk/developer/formats/rdf says:
>>>
>>> A rdfs:isDefinedBy link points from the item of legislation to the
>>> latest version of the legislation. The latest version has a
>>> dct:hasVersion pointer to the particular versioned (and dated)
>>> document, which reciprocates with a dct:isVersionOf property.
>>>
>>> <frbr:Expression
>>> rdf:about="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/67/sld/2003-04-01">
>>>   <dct:isVersionOf
>>> rdf:resource="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/67" />
>>> </frbr:Expression>
>>>
>>>
>>> So here it is used in a FRBR way to do hierarchical
>>> prov:specializationOf.
>>>
>>>
>>> >From this I would still keep my blocking issue, make
>>> prov:wasRevisionOf a subproperty of dct:isVersionOf.  You could argue
>>> that dct:isVersionOf should be a subproperty of prov:specializationOf;
>>> but I would not go there as that would only apply to cases like the
>>> above where dct:isVersionOf has been used "proper".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>>> School of Computer Science
>>> The University of Manchester
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl)
>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/
>> Assistant Professor
>> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science
>> - The Network Institute
>> VU University Amsterdam
>
>



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Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
School of Computer Science
The University of Manchester
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