- From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:15:30 +0100
- To: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>
- Cc: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
As I said before, the TTL of DC Terms itself uses the (implied) inverse dct:hasVersion in exactly the same fashion as I've described, so I don't believe it's anything unusual. http://dublincore.org/2012/06/14/dcterms.ttl Even by definition, I would argue that prov:wasRevisionOf does not cover generally adaptation, "revision" implies some kind of authority and update. Making a movie version of the theatre play "My Fair Lady" is certainly derivation, but not revisioning. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es> wrote: > Hi Paul, Stian. > Thanks for the examples Stian. Before agreeing I want to analyze them. > > The only reason why we made "isVersionOf" and "wasRevisionOf" equivalent was > because > neither PROV or DC defined the attributes of a "version" and a "revision". > DC isVersionOf: a related resource to which the current resource is a > version, edition or adaptation > PROV wasRevisionOf: a derivation for which the resulting entity is a revised > version of some original > since revision doesn't have any attributes defined, we could consider > "adaptation" included in there. > > Let me check whether these examples fit in the definitions or not (it could > also happen that the vocabulary was not > used correctly in the examples). I'll look into it later today. > Best, > Daniel > > > 2013/4/16 Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> >> >> Hi Daniel, all >> >> Are there objections to making prov:wasRevisionOf a subProperty of >> dct:isVersionOf. >> >> From my perspective, this is a bit disappointing as it makes querying dct >> from prov harder. You couldn't query on prov:wasRevisionOf and get >> dct:isVersionOf back. >> >> However, I won't object to this change. >> >> Thanks >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes >> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Here are some examples I found on Sindice of using dct:isVersionOf in >>> the style of prov:specializationOf: >>> >>> >>> >>> http://sindice.com/search?q=&nq=(*%20%3Chttp%3A%2F%2Fpurl.org%2Fdc%2Fterms%2FisVersionOf%3E%20*)&fq=&interface=advanced >>> >>> >>> <http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/154/versions/11> >>> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/isVersionOf> >>> <http://www.myexperiment.org/workflows/154> . >>> >>> <http://www.gyldendal.no/toraage/gullhjelmen/gullhjelmen >>> 1.html> >>> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/isVersionOf> >>> <http://www.akerbaek.no/dramatispersonae/act/bringsværd/gullhjelmen1> >>> . >>> >>> >>> <http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/obo/hao.owl#HAO_0000000> >>> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/isVersionOf> >>> <http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/HAO_000000> . >>> >>> >>> I would argue none of these are prov:wasRevisionOf >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.legislation.gov.uk/developer/formats/rdf says: >>> >>> A rdfs:isDefinedBy link points from the item of legislation to the >>> latest version of the legislation. The latest version has a >>> dct:hasVersion pointer to the particular versioned (and dated) >>> document, which reciprocates with a dct:isVersionOf property. >>> >>> <frbr:Expression >>> rdf:about="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/67/sld/2003-04-01"> >>> <dct:isVersionOf >>> rdf:resource="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/67" /> >>> </frbr:Expression> >>> >>> >>> So here it is used in a FRBR way to do hierarchical >>> prov:specializationOf. >>> >>> >>> >From this I would still keep my blocking issue, make >>> prov:wasRevisionOf a subproperty of dct:isVersionOf. You could argue >>> that dct:isVersionOf should be a subproperty of prov:specializationOf; >>> but I would not go there as that would only apply to cases like the >>> above where dct:isVersionOf has been used "proper". >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team >>> School of Computer Science >>> The University of Manchester >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl) >> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/ >> Assistant Professor >> - Web & Media Group | Department of Computer Science >> - The Network Institute >> VU University Amsterdam > > -- Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team School of Computer Science The University of Manchester
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