- From: Graham Klyne <graham.klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:27:53 +0100
- To: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
- CC: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
I think that "foo superpropertyOf owl:sameAs" is true by definition for any property foo that is reflexive. But I take your point that alternateOf captures some particular aspect of "sameness". I'm not sure it's the aspect that is intended when owl:sameAs is used (but I also think owl:sameAs is difficult to use correctly). #g -- On 11/10/2012 17:33, Jim McCusker wrote: > I think it's a generalization of exactMatch and closeMatch. > specializationOf is, to my eye, a superproperty of skos:broaderTransitive. > Concepts are a little different, since they can be much fuzzier than things > in the world. Is a narrower concept in any sense the same "thing" as it's > broader counterpart? I predicted something like this (but not quite) in a > 2010 OWLed paper, that we would need something like SKOS for non-conceptual > things: > > http://www.webont.org/owled/2010/papers/owled2010_submission_12.pdf > > Jim > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl> wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> Interesting comment. I changed subject lines to disconnect it from the >> other thread. How do you think prov:alternateOf compliments the >> mappings predicates in skos? >> >> Thanks >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:53 AM, James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> The alternateOf relation is provided mainly for complex scenarios >>>> involving things that change over time, and is not one of the core >>>> relationships that casual users of PROV will employ routinely. >>> >>> >>> I would actually like to see the linked data community adopt alternateOf >> in >>> place of owl:sameAs for their work. It's a reasonable replacement, as >>> alternateOf is effectively a superproperty of sameAs. If that happens, it >>> would be the most-used concept from PROV! This is a separate discussion, >> but >>> I think it's important to keep this in mind when we discuss it. >>> >>> Jim >>> -- >>> Jim McCusker >>> Programmer Analyst >>> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics >>> Yale School of Medicine >>> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-4436 >>> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu >>> >>> PhD Student >>> Tetherless World Constellation >>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute >>> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu >>> http://tw.rpi.edu >> > > >
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