- From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
- Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 22:37:36 +0200
- To: Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu>
- Cc: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, Stephan Zednik <zednis@rpi.edu>, Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>, Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Satya, Just to note, Ivan is going to set-up content negotiation at http://www.w3c.org/ns/prov cheers Paul On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Satya Sahoo <satya.sahoo@case.edu> wrote: > Hi, >> >> I believe version IRI should always go totally to the OWL file. >> > +1 We discussed the option of using owl:versionInfo with version IRI. > >> >> > >> > Do we use any content negotiation? What if >> > http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120503 was requested with a content >> > type of "RDF/XML"? >> > > > I think content negotiation will be out of scope for prov-o. > > Thanks. > > Best, > Satya > >> >> > --Stephan >> > >> >> >> >> -Tim >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Since this is in the owl file, it will allow anyone with the file to >> >>> know which working draft (or release) the owl file represents. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I've added notes to [1] so that this will be done upon the future >> >>> releases. >> >>> >> >>> Will this satisfy your needs? May we close the issue? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Tim >> >>> >> >>> [1] >> >>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/PIL_OWL_Ontology#Steps_taken_for_LC >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Timothy Lebo wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Jun, >> >>>> >> >>>> I am happy to help settle the versioning issues with the OWL >> >>>> ontology, >> >>>> but I'm afraid that I'm not sure what your concerns are. >> >>>> >> >>>> We have three options: >> >>>> >> >>>> 1) hg tag the OWL file >> >>>> 2) add to the prov-o html automation to reference the OWL version >> >>>> that it is documenting >> >>>> 3) <> owl:versionURI >> >>>> >> >>>> Could you please clarify your concerns so that we can scope the >> >>>> effort to address them? >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> Tim >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On May 5, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Paul Groth wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> This seems good. Stian can you add it? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks >> >>>>> Paul >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Jun Zhao <jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> On 03/05/2012 11:02, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: >> >>>>>>> Don't you think the OWL should contain something like >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> <> owl:versionIRI >> >>>>>>> <www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-prov-o-20120501/ProvenanceOntology.owl> ? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Stian, yes, we should also have that! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- Jun >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I would +1 that as people like myself will download the OWL >> >>>>>>> locally >> >>>>>>> for processing with say Sesame-Elmo, and it later will be >> >>>>>>> important to >> >>>>>>> know which one it is based on. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> We just need to know the magic date to add it in advance. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Jun Zhao<jun.zhao@zoo.ox.ac.uk> >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Hi Tim, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I am happy with what we will do with the public release. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> And dealing with versioning for internal releases can wait if you >> >>>>>>>> are >> >>>>>>>> overwhelmed by other commitment at the moment. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -- Jun >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On 02/05/2012 00:27, Tim Lebo wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Jun, >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> The prov.owl will be "copied" to the official w3c website >> >>>>>>>>> directory when >> >>>>>>>>> the WD2 is published on Thursday, so there will be no question >> >>>>>>>>> about what >> >>>>>>>>> OWL file the HTML is talking about. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Hopefully, the "dereferencability problem" (which paul took on >> >>>>>>>>> and we >> >>>>>>>>> asked Daniel to help with) will be addressed soon, which will >> >>>>>>>>> provide the >> >>>>>>>>> latest OWL when requesting the terms' URIs. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> If we want to be explicit about what version of the ontology the >> >>>>>>>>> HTML is >> >>>>>>>>> taking about, I can look into exposing that within every >> >>>>>>>>> compiled draft up >> >>>>>>>>> to LC that is due in a few weeks. But generally, these are >> >>>>>>>>> always in sync >> >>>>>>>>> because the ontology changes less frequently and the HTML is >> >>>>>>>>> generated much >> >>>>>>>>> more frequently. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Please let me know which aspects you need most, so that we can >> >>>>>>>>> address the >> >>>>>>>>> right issues soon. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>>>>> Tim >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2012, at 11:38, Provenance Working Group Issue >> >>>>>>>>> Tracker<sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> PROV-ISSUE-371 (junzhao): timestamped provo.owl [PROV-O HTML] >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/371 >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Raised by: Jun Zhao >> >>>>>>>>>> On product: PROV-O HTML >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Can we talk about when or whether we will have snapshots for >> >>>>>>>>>> our >> >>>>>>>>>> ontology, like ProvenanceOntology-20120430.owl? Or achieve >> >>>>>>>>>> similar >> >>>>>>>>>> functionality via other mechanisms? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Because our ontology is still work in progress, it is important >> >>>>>>>>>> to have >> >>>>>>>>>> the right ontology content associated with each prov-o spec >> >>>>>>>>>> public release >> >>>>>>>>>> or even work draft. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I think this would be something really nice to have at least >> >>>>>>>>>> for this >> >>>>>>>>>> upcoming public release. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I am happy to discuss more on this. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> -- Jun >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl) >> >>>>> http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/ >> >>>>> Assistant Professor >> >>>>> Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group >> >>>>> Artificial Intelligence Section >> >>>>> Department of Computer Science >> >>>>> VU University Amsterdam >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team >> School of Computer Science >> The University of Manchester >> > -- -- Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl) http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/ Assistant Professor Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group Artificial Intelligence Section Department of Computer Science VU University Amsterdam
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