Re: prov:Dictionary example - without the specs

On Jun 5, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Luc Moreau wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
> Thanks for your example.
> 
> The following is not valid according to prov-dm:
> 
> prov:hadMember                                             # These would be asserted on a simple (first step)
>     36       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/John_Glover_Roberts,_Jr.>, # prov:Collection.
>     37       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Antonin_Scalia>,           #
>     38       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Anthony_Kennedy>,          #
>     39       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Clarence_Thomas>,          #
>     40       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg>,      #
>     41       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Stephen_Breyer>,           #
>     42       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Samuel_Alito>,             #
>     43       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Sonia_Sotomayor>,          #
>     44       <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Elena_Kagan>;       
> 



> The key reason why we went for a dictionary and, say, a set of entities,
> is that we are unable to decide whether an entity belongs to a set on the basis of
> its urls (since the same entity may be denoted by multiple urls).


huh? Why does that matter? In that case, we wouldn't be able to do it for Dictionaries, either.


-Tim




> 
> Luc
> 
> On 05/06/2012 06:25, Timothy Lebo wrote:
>> 
>> prov-wg,
>> 
>> I tried my hand at modeling the provenance of the U.S. Supreme Court's current membership, and its derivation to it's first membership.
>> 
>> The wiki page for the example is at:
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Eg-34-us-supreme-court-membership
>> 
>> In an attempt to take a fresh look at how we're modeling dictionaries (and collections?), I didn't reference PROV-DM, PROV-O, or any other examples or documentation -- I just tried to describe the subject matter.
>> 
>> 
>> How does it look?
>> 
>> I'd like to move PROV-O (and DM, if it needs tweaking) towards this kind of modeling and naming.
>> 
>> Discussion and feedback encouraged.
>> 
>> Later today, I'll try to start from scratch on the DM and work through the current PROV-O modeling, and then the recent threads on this topic.
>> I hope by then we can converge on a satisfactory design.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Tim
>>