Re: PROV-ISSUE-320 (dgarijo): Change the name of prov:Quotation

Stephen,

Thanks for the suggestions for QuotationInvolvement and WasQuotedBy.

I've taken it to the prov-o team to see what they think.

Regards,
Tim

On Apr 16, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Cresswell, Stephen wrote:

> Hi Daniel, Tim,
>  
> Sorry for not picking this up.
>  
> I just find that Quotation sounds like it’s an Entity (and actually Revision and Source do as well).  I don’t have any better suggestion for Quotation in isolation, I think it would need a change of naming convention for involvements, e.g. have something like QuotationInvolvement (but perhaps it was like that previously?).  Another alternative is to use the convention of naming the involvements similarly to the direct properties, e.g. WasQuotedBy.  Something like that was used in OPMO, and at least makes the correspondences obvious.
>  
> However, I think this is a minor quibble and I don’t wish to upset something that was otherwise settled, so I don’t mind if the issue is closed.
>  
> Stephen Cresswell
> Tel:  +44 (0) 01603 69 6926
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>  
> From: dgarijov@gmail.com [mailto:dgarijov@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Garijo
> Sent: 08 April 2012 20:07
> To: Timothy Lebo
> Cc: Provenance Working Group
> Subject: Re: PROV-ISSUE-320 (dgarijo): Change the name of prov:Quotation
>  
> Hi Stephen,
> this issue is now OPEN. As Tim already asked, do you have a better suggestion for "Quotation"?
> 
> Thanks,
> Daniel
> 
> 2012/3/28 Timothy Lebo <lebot@rpi.edu>
> Stephen,
> 
> Thanks for pointing this out.
> 
> 
> On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
> 
> > PROV-ISSUE-320 (dgarijo): Change the name of prov:Quotation
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/320
> >
> > Raised by: Stephen Cresswell
> > On product:
> >
> > I wrongly thought prov:Quotation was a kind of
> > Entity rather than a kind of EntityInvolvement, and I correspondingly
> > misread hadQuoterAgent, hadQuotedAgent property as relating an Entity to
> > an Agent and thought that it ought to be a specialization of
> > wasAttributedTo.  The way it's actually modeled does match PROV-DM,
> 
> 2)
> Does this continue to be the case? If so, could you elaborate the mismatch that you see?
> 
> 
> > so
> > there's nothing wrong here, but it might be worth considering renaming
> > prov:Quotation to help avoid the tempting misreading.
> >
> 
> 
> prov:Quote was the entity in previous versions of prov-o.
> prov:Quotation is named similarly to Generation and a few others.
> 
> 1)
> Do you have a suggestion for it's name?
> If so, I suggest raising an issue on DM as well:
> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/prov-dm.html#term-quotation
> 
> Regards,
> Tim
> 
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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