Re: prov-dm derivation: three proposals to vote on (deadline Wednesday midnight GMT)

On 09/11/2011 21:01, Simon Miles wrote:
> Hi Luc,
>
>> I don't see why wasEventuallyDericedFrom can't be transitive?
>
> Do you mean an instance or in general? If you mean in general, then
> for example, the webpage in the example was derived from the sketch,
> which was a pencil drawing on a sheet of paper. The sketch then was
> derived from the pencil. But the webpage was not derived from the
> pencil, as it would have been the same if the sketch was written in
> pen.

Oooh... isn't this straying into the territory of might-be scenarios that 
provenance was intended to avoid?

#g
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>> It's also unclear how you decide between wasEventuallyDericed and dependendOn?
>
> I'm not sure the kind of decision procedure you're looking for, but I
> might go for:
>
> A wasEventuallyDerivedFrom B if B being different would have meant A
> was different.
> If B was used in a process that generated an entity, C, and A
> wasEventuallyDerivedFrom C or A dependedOn C, then A dependedOn B.
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
>> Professor Luc Moreau
>> Electronics and Computer Science
>> University of Southampton
>> Southampton SO17 1BJ
>> United Kingdom
>>
>> On 9 Nov 2011, at 20:06, "Simon Miles"<simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>> If you think that we need a non-transitive relation wasEventuallyDerivedFrom, can you explain why?
>>
>>
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>
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Received on Thursday, 10 November 2011 16:16:58 UTC