- From: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
- Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 12:37:57 -0500
- To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Cc: Daniel Garijo <dgarijo@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>, Provenance Working Group WG <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Daniel, Luc, How would you relate "presidentRole" to "leaderRole"? Jim On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Daniel, > That's seems fine modelling and prov-dm supports it. > Luc > > On 06/11/11 16:14, Daniel Garijo wrote: > > Hi Jim, > what was rejected is Roles being subclasses of Entities. > Roles can still be classes... > > In your example, I would make "presidentRole" and instance > of class Role and then link it to the entity "Barack Obama". > > Best, > Daniel > > 2011/11/6 Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu> >> >> Make Roles resources like Entities. Classes of Roles (Creator, >> Publisher, PrincipleInvestigator) are instantiated for each Entity. Of >> course, this is rather similar to what's been rejected (?), but is >> still the best choice, IMO. This would be, for instance, "Barack >> Obama's role as president", as opposed to "the role of president", >> which would be a class. >> >> Role could also be an extension of skos:Concept and allow you to >> express "the role of president" directly without custom instantiation. >> >> Jim >> >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> >> wrote: >> > Ok, so, what's alternative suggestion ? >> > >> > Professor Luc Moreau >> > Electronics and Computer Science >> > University of Southampton >> > Southampton SO17 1BJ >> > United Kingdom >> > >> > >> > On 6 Nov 2011, at 12:59, "Jim McCusker" <mccusj@rpi.edu> wrote: >> > >> >> This is a misunderstanding of a URI literal versus URI resource. When >> >> a URI resource is used, it can link to that resource when it has >> >> assertions made about it. This is not possible or intended with URI >> >> literals. >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Tim, >> >>> >> >>> But doesn't this include URIs by means of typed literals? >> >>> >> >>> Professor Luc Moreau >> >>> Electronics and Computer Science >> >>> University of Southampton >> >>> Southampton SO17 1BJ >> >>> United Kingdom >> >>> >> >>> On 6 Nov 2011, at 01:20, "Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker" >> >>> <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> PROV-ISSUE-142 (Tlebo): Can roles only be Literals? [Data Model] >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/142 >> >>>> >> >>>> Raised by: Timothy Lebo >> >>>> On product: Data Model >> >>>> >> >>>> prov-dm, 5.5.1 Qualifier: >> >>>> >> >>>> "The value associated with a role attribute must be conformant with >> >>>> Literal." >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Will this prevent PROV-O from using URIs to cite roles? >> >>>> >> >>>> Restricting roles to literals will be severely limiting for PROV-O >> >>>> and semantic web applications, since literals cannot be described or served >> >>>> as linked data, and thus consumers will be unable to determine more >> >>>> information about what the role means. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jim McCusker >> >> Programmer Analyst >> >> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics >> >> Yale School of Medicine >> >> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330 >> >> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu >> >> >> >> PhD Student >> >> Tetherless World Constellation >> >> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute >> >> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu >> >> http://tw.rpi.edu >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Jim McCusker >> Programmer Analyst >> Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics >> Yale School of Medicine >> james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330 >> http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu >> >> PhD Student >> Tetherless World Constellation >> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute >> mccusj@cs.rpi.edu >> http://tw.rpi.edu >> > > -- Jim McCusker Programmer Analyst Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics Yale School of Medicine james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330 http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu PhD Student Tetherless World Constellation Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute mccusj@cs.rpi.edu http://tw.rpi.edu
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