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Re: PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used [Formal Model]

From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:36:55 +0100
Message-ID: <4E5641E7.3040703@ninebynine.org>
To: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
CC: rhodgson@topquadrant.com, public-prov-wg@w3.org
On 22/08/2011 21:56, Luc Moreau wrote:
> Hi Ralph,
> Don't you end up with a mix of relation names:
> uses, derivedFrom and hasParticipant ?

That looks uniform to me.  Some properties are formed from multi-part names, 
some aren't - I don't see that can be avoided.

#g
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> My preference is for uniformity. If we go for a verbal form for some, we should
> go for all;
> otherwise for none.
>
> Luc
>
> On 22/08/11 20:09, Ralph Hodgson wrote:
>>
>> /Propose that 'is' be dropped from all predicates that have a suffix. Two
>> reasons - parsimony and connotations (in fact denotations) about tense are
>> removed./
>>
>> / /
>>
>> / Example: 'isDerivedFrom' becomes 'derivedFrom'./
>>
>> / /
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>> /Also advocate that all predicates begin with a lowercase letter./
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>> *From:* public-prov-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-prov-wg-request@w3.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Luc Moreau
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 2:53 AM
>> *To:* public-prov-wg@w3.org
>> *Subject:* Re: PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used [Formal
>> Model]
>>
>> Hi Daniel and Simon,
>>
>> In the conceptual model (up to section 5), all relations use present tense,
>> uses, isDerivedFrom, isComplementOf, isGeneratedBy, ...
>>
>> I agree with Daniel, we need consistency in the conceptual model and formal
>> model.
>>
>> I agree with Simon, it's nice to point back into the past.
>>
>> Luc
>>
>> PS. I took as an action to poll about the use of tense.
>>
>> On 08/11/2011 04:46 PM, Simon Miles wrote:
>>
>> +1 for "used", for the reasons you give.
>> -1 for "isUsedBy". All other relations in the model link effect/later
>> occurrence to cause/earlier occurrence, so "isUsedBy" would be
>> inconsistent. This means that provenance graphs would not consistently
>> point back into the past of the thing we're seeing the provenance of,
>> and would be confusing to iteratively navigate.
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
>> On 11 August 2011 16:38, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker
>> <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> <mailto:sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used [Formal Model]
>>
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/72
>>
>>
>> Raised by: Daniel Garijo
>>
>> On product: Formal Model
>>
>>
>> Since all the other properties are using the past tense, we should be
>> consistens and rename uses to "used" or "isUsedBy" flipping the domain and range
>>
>>
>>
>>
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