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Re: PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used [Formal Model]

From: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:56:43 +0100
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To: rhodgson@topquadrant.com
CC: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Hi Ralph,
Don't you end up with a mix of relation names:
  uses, derivedFrom and hasParticipant ?

My preference is for uniformity. If we go for a verbal form for some, we 
should go for all;
otherwise for none.

Luc

On 22/08/11 20:09, Ralph Hodgson wrote:
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> /Propose that 'is' be dropped from all predicates that have a suffix. 
> Two reasons - parsimony and connotations (in fact denotations) about 
> tense are removed./
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> /            Example: 'isDerivedFrom' becomes  'derivedFrom'./
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> /Also advocate that all predicates begin with a lowercase letter./
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> [mailto:public-prov-wg-request@w3.org] *On Behalf Of *Luc Moreau
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 2:53 AM
> *To:* public-prov-wg@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used 
> [Formal Model]
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> Hi Daniel and Simon,
>
> In the conceptual model (up to section 5), all relations use present 
> tense,
> uses, isDerivedFrom, isComplementOf, isGeneratedBy, ...
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> I agree with Daniel, we need consistency in the conceptual model and 
> formal model.
>
> I agree with Simon, it's nice to point back into the past.
>
> Luc
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> PS. I took as an action to poll about the use of tense.
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> On 08/11/2011 04:46 PM, Simon Miles wrote:
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> +1 for "used", for the reasons you give.
>   
> -1 for "isUsedBy". All other relations in the model link effect/later
> occurrence to cause/earlier occurrence, so "isUsedBy" would be
> inconsistent. This means that provenance graphs would not consistently
> point back into the past of the thing we're seeing the provenance of,
> and would be confusing to iteratively navigate.
>   
> Thanks,
> Simon
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> On 11 August 2011 16:38, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker
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>     PROV-ISSUE-72 (DGarijo): Uses should be renamed as used [Formal Model]
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>     http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/72
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>     Raised by: Daniel Garijo
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>     On product: Formal Model
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>     Since all the other properties are using the past tense, we should be consistens and rename uses to "used" or "isUsedBy" flipping the domain and range
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