- From: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:25:19 +0100
- To: Olaf Hartig <hartig@informatik.hu-berlin.de>
- CC: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Olaf, Many thanks for your feedback. It is most valuable. Most of your comments have been actioned in the draft version at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/cf79b13c1217/paq/provenance-access.html There are a couple of issues you raise here which I am treating as unresolved: (1) the subject of HTTP/HTML links specifying provenance-URI, context-URI. This was already raised as ISSUE 68, so I've added a note there. (2) the section on adding links to RDF original data remains incomplete. I briefly discuss it below, but I have not yet updated the document other than to add some comments. Olaf Hartig wrote: > Hello, > > (Sorry, I wasn't able to make the call today.) > > I took another look at (the latest version of) the PAQ document today. Here > are my comments: > > --Section 1.2-- > *) The term "web resource" is not described in AWWW. AWWW Sec.2.2 just > introduces the term "resource". Good catch. I sometimes like to use the term "web resource" to underscore the intent. I've changed this, and also the definition of "resource" in section 1.1. > *) The use of "context" and "context-URI" fit quite well here; much better than > "target". Thanks! > --Section 3.1-- > *) Why do we begin with the POWDER mechanism here? I would propose to remove > the reference to POWDER from the begin of this section and, instead, mention > later in the secti n something along the lines of: Oh b.t.w. POWDER proposed > something similar. Agreed. I've moved the reference to POWDER to the main section body and made it less prominent. > > *) Regarding the first Issue (i.e. a separate Link header field for anchor or > anchor as a parameter): We should pick the second because it is precise about > which provenance-URI is associated with which context-URI. That is true. But that [precision cannot be achieved using the alternative mechanisms. especially HTML <link> element, so I'm actually leaning the other way. I've updated ISSUE 68 (http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/68) to mention this problem. I'm treating it as currently unresolved. > *) Regarding the second Issue: I wouldn't consider the linked provenance > information authoritative. Thanks. I'm getting a sense that there may be some consensus here:) > > --Section 3.2-- > *) Same issue with POWDER as raised for Sec.3.1. Agreed. Reference removed as noted above. > *) Why do we need the <meta name="wdr.issuedby"... element in the example? > The text doesn't say anything about it; so, it may only cause confusion and, > thus, should be removed. A cut-and-paste passenger. I agree. I noticed this before and intended to remove it. This time, I shall. > --Section 3.2.1-- > *) Same issue with the <meta name="wdr.issuedby"... element in the example > as raised for Sec.3.2. Yes. Done. > *) Regarding the Issue (i.e. what about the relationship between linked > provenance information and provenance information provided via meta elements > in the document itself): So far, we are not concerned with practices to > directly embed provenance information into the documents (or, in more general > terms, into representations of Web resources). As long as we don't do that (we > should!), I don't see a need to discuss this issue in the document. Agreed - I've removed that issue from the document at the same time as de-emphasizing the relationship to POWDER. > --Section 3.3-- > *) For prov:hasProvenance triples I still don't understand how the subject is > associated to the set of RDF triples that contains the corresponding > prov:hasProvenance triple. To put it differently, what URI do I as a publisher > use in the subject position of a prov:hasProvenance triple if I want to say > that the object resource represents provenance information about that very set > of triples which currently represent the resource in question. You use the URI of the containing RDF. For RDF documents, this is sometimes written as an empty URI-reference; e.g. <rdf:Description rdf:about=""> <prov:hasProvenance rdf:resource="(provenance_URI)"/> </rdf:Description> (If publishing the RDF in a named graph, then use the URI of the graph.) I agree this section needs fleshing out still. I guess I was waiting for the dust to settle on the provenance model and vocabulary. > --Section 4-- > At first glance the proposed HTTP interface for discovery looks good. I will > give it a second read. > > However, a minor syntactic issue in the example in Sec.4.2.1.2: the last > semicolon has to be removed. Thanks! Fixed. #g --
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