RE: updates to PAQ doc for discussion

I think the gist of the discussion on the modeling side lately and the
decision to have 'only Bobs' would shift this towards just talking about
the link between provenance and resources with the model then having a
mechanism to indicate when some resources are views of others, i.e. one
URI is the page content on a given date and the other URI is the live
page, but both are resources that can have provenance, and their
provenance can contain links that indicate their relationship.

Jim

 

From: public-prov-wg-request@w3.org
[mailto:public-prov-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Khalid Belhajjame
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:13 AM
To: Paul Groth
Cc: public-prov-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: updates to PAQ doc for discussion

 

 

Hi,

My main concern reading sections 1 and 3, is the use of both resource
and target entity. I understand that the idea is that a web resources
may be associated with multiple target entities, and that there is a
need to identify which target the provenance describes. However, having
to go through the two levels resource then entity is a bit confusing,
specially for a reader is not aware of the discussions that we had about
the two concepts.

Suggestion: Would it be really bad if we confine ourselves to the
provenance vocabulary and describe how the provenance of an Entity, as
opposed to a resource, can be accessed?

Other comments:

- In the definition of a resource, it said that "a resource may be
associated with multiple targets". It would be good if we could clarify
this relationship a bit more.

- I find the definition of provenance information a bit vague, the body
of the definition says pretty much the same thing as the title of the
definition. If we don't have a better idea of what can be said, it is
probably better to remove it.

In Section 3, Second paragraph, "Once provenance information
information" -> "once provenance information"

In the same paragraph: "one needs how to identify" -> "one needs to know
how to identify".

Khalid




On 10/08/2011 20:37, Paul Groth wrote: 

Hi All, 

Graham and I have been making some changes to the PAQ document [1] that
we would like to request feedback on at tomorrow's telecon. 

In particular, we have updated Sections 1 and 3. We've added a section
on core concepts and made section 3 reflect these concepts. We think
this may address PROV-ISSUE-46 [2]. 

Please take a look and let us know what you think. 

Thanks, 
Paul 

Note: Section 4 Provenance discovery service is still under heavy
editing 


[1]
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/paq/provenance-access.html 
[2] http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/46