- From: Michael Schneider <schneid@fzi.de>
- Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:07:50 +0200
- To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Cc: <public-owl-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <0EF30CAA69519C4CB91D01481AEA06A08BDDCA@judith.fzi.de>
Dear Peter! Regrettably, I wasn't able to attend the last telco, so I haven't been able to discuss the Russell problem there. The minutes cite you: Peter Patel-Schneider: one can do a patch to keep things the same... Peter Patel-Schneider: that might be adequate Do you mean by this that you know about some method to restrict the semantics of the self restrictions in a way that we still have all OWL 2 DL entailments in OWL 2 Full? I would be interested to see such an approach. I have tried several days now to find a "minimal invasive" modification of the semantics. But I did not succeed to find a solution which maintains this "Theorem 2" relationship between OWL DL and OWL Full. On the other hand, as you know, I have become very skeptical to the comprehension principles within the last few weeks. I now regard comprehension principles to be a very heavy weight approach to make OWL Full an upper language of OWL DL. They make the OWL Full universe so amazingly complicated. If someone told me to prove or disprove consistency of OWL Full, my hypothesis would rather be that it is presumably inconsistent -- without the comprehension principles I would see a much better chance for consistency. But even if OWL Full really is internally consistent, it's hard for me to imagine how to come up with such a proof, when having all these comprehension principles around. (I tried myself a few times to find ideas how to prove or disprove consistency, but got almost crazy. ;-)) I even believe that there is an adequate alternative way to characterize the relationship between OWL DL and OWL Full. But if there is a save immediate bugfix for the Russell problem, which keeps the entailment-based relationship alive, then this will be the way to go. (Well there might be an OWL 3 some day... :)) All the best, Michael
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