Re: JSON-LD context for open annotations?

Ah, great. I have added it to oa.jsonld on https://github.com/stain/oa/

Ivan - would you be able to pull in the last change (8a7d4da) and push
the magic button? We are forever grateful! :)


On 6 May 2014 10:01, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> One thing to add before publishing (sorry!) is an entry in the context for
> dc:language please.
> We missed it in the context, and it came up recently with the IDPF work as
> being necessary.
>
> The reference for use is here:
> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/core.html#BodyEmbed
> and thus
>    {"language" : "dc:language"}
> should be part of the context document.
>
> The fault is mine entirely for missing this.  Would be great to fix, at
> least in the machine readable document :)
>
> Thanks Stian, Ivan!
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Great!
>>
>> Not sure if I have the authority! Robert?
>>
>> On 2 May 2014 14:58, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>> > I have everything set on my machine; give me the word and I push it to
>> > the server...
>> >
>> > Ivan
>> >
>> > On 02 May 2014, at 14:28 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> > <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> You were right, I HAD done it earlier.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Now checked and updated
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/stain/oa/blob/master/oa.jsonld
>> >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/stain/oa/master/oa.jsonld
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Should we deploy it? I suggest, now that it is also the ontology, to
>> >> deploy it as:
>> >>
>> >>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.jsonld  (Content-Type: application/ld+json)
>> >>
>> >> with redirects from
>> >>
>> >> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json  (307)
>> >> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json  (308)
>> >>
>> >> and content-negotiatiatable from
>> >>
>> >>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/ld+json )
>> >>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/json
>> >>
>> >> ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Note: I also updated oa.html/oa.owl/oa.ttl as there was the wrong the
>> >> label for oa:styleClass:  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.html#d4e384
>> >>
>> >> I also updated oa.html as "Manchester Ontology Browser" sadly has been
>> >> decommissioned.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So please also update:
>> >>
>> >> oa.html
>> >> oa.owl
>> >> oa.ttl
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2 May 2014 08:58, Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> >> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >>> No, but I can try to make one today.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll paste the context from the spec into the top and check that it is
>> >>> complete.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1 May 2014 15:43, "Robert Sanderson" <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There was some discussion last year about the context resolution.  If
>> >>>> it's
>> >>>> possible to simply put the context document at that URL would be
>> >>>> fantastic.
>> >>>> The previous discussion was that contexts should not live there, only
>> >>>> ontologies.  The solution was to have an ontology document in JSON-LD
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> the context embedded, on the grounds that JSON-LD processors will
>> >>>> ignore the
>> >>>> rest of the document.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Which we didn't get around to doing, apologies!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Stian, do you have a convenient transformation for the ontology into
>> >>>> JSON-LD?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Rob
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jérémie Astori <jeremie@w3.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Ivan and Stian,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> As the webmaster, I not responsible for content placed outside of
>> >>>>> TR.
>> >>>>> Also, I am not aware of any change on this URIs.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jérémie
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 01/05/14 05:20, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ah, my apologies, I did not spot the trailing /!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The oa/ with a slash is not meant to work and is just an
>> >>>>>> implementation detail - and from there the relative links get
>> >>>>>> broken.
>> >>>>>> (As you see the namespace is http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> About the JSON-LD context, I guess we would have to check the
>> >>>>>> archives.  There was some back and forth if a context would be
>> >>>>>> allowed
>> >>>>>> in the /ns/ folder or not (and I think the conclusion was that it
>> >>>>>> was). Perhaps we simply forgot once the agreement was reached..?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/publishing.html Figure
>> >>>>>> 5.1.1
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> shows the JSON-LD context embedded in the HTML.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Robert,  I guess that is the context which should be under
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> and also under
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ?  Should we ask the webmaster to deploy that?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 1 May 2014 09:59, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I am not sure what should be the "official" URI, the CG has to
>> >>>>>>> tell me.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> However
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> works (without the trailing '/'!) and displays the content of
>> >>>>>>> oa.html
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This one also works:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.ttl
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> also works. It seems that things have been installed without the
>> >>>>>>> separate oa/ directory.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You guys should tell me which one should be done; it may have been
>> >>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>> somebody (probably me) did it wrong at some point. I just do not
>> >>>>>>> remember
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ivan
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 01 May 2014, at 10:01 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> >>>>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I am thought those contexts should have worked.. but now I am not
>> >>>>>>>> sure.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Something has gone strange with the whole OA namespace.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/ also  looks a bit odd -  all the styling
>> >>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>> gone!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/oa.ttl  gives the HTML rather than the
>> >>>>>>>> Turtle,
>> >>>>>>>> same for oa.rdf.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> w3c Webmaster - any idea what has changed? Something with
>> >>>>>>>> htaccess or
>> >>>>>>>> web server setup?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 30 April 2014 16:07, Jacco van Ossenbruggen
>> >>>>>>>> <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> What is the best url to use for the json-ld context document for
>> >>>>>>>>> Open
>> >>>>>>>>> Annotation applications?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> The url advertised in the current specs does not resolve:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Nor does the versionless
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ??
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Jacco
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>> >>>>>>>> School of Computer Science
>> >>>>>>>> The University of Manchester
>> >>>>>>>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
>> >>>>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ----
>> >>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>> >>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>> >>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> >>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>> >>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
>> >>>>>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Rob Sanderson
>> >>>> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
>> >>>> Digital Library Systems and Services
>> >>>> Stanford, CA 94305
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>> >> School of Computer Science
>> >> The University of Manchester
>> >> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
>> >> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>> >
>> >
>> > ----
>> > Ivan Herman, W3C
>> > Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>> > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>> > mobile: +31-641044153
>> > GPG: 0x343F1A3D
>> > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>> School of Computer Science
>> The University of Manchester
>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rob Sanderson
> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
> Digital Library Systems and Services
> Stanford, CA 94305



-- 
Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
School of Computer Science
The University of Manchester
http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718

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