Re: JSON-LD context for open annotations?

One thing to add before publishing (sorry!) is an entry in the context for
dc:language please.
We missed it in the context, and it came up recently with the IDPF work as
being necessary.

The reference for use is here:
http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/core.html#BodyEmbed
and thus
   {"language" : "dc:language"}
should be part of the context document.

The fault is mine entirely for missing this.  Would be great to fix, at
least in the machine readable document :)

Thanks Stian, Ivan!

Rob



On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <
soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

> Great!
>
> Not sure if I have the authority! Robert?
>
> On 2 May 2014 14:58, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> > I have everything set on my machine; give me the word and I push it to
> the server...
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> > On 02 May 2014, at 14:28 , Stian Soiland-Reyes <
> soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> You were right, I HAD done it earlier.
> >>
> >>
> >> Now checked and updated
> >>
> >> https://github.com/stain/oa/blob/master/oa.jsonld
> >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/stain/oa/master/oa.jsonld
> >>
> >>
> >> Should we deploy it? I suggest, now that it is also the ontology, to
> >> deploy it as:
> >>
> >>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.jsonld  (Content-Type: application/ld+json)
> >>
> >> with redirects from
> >>
> >> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json  (307)
> >> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json  (308)
> >>
> >> and content-negotiatiatable from
> >>
> >>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/ld+json )
> >>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/json
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Note: I also updated oa.html/oa.owl/oa.ttl as there was the wrong the
> >> label for oa:styleClass:  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.html#d4e384
> >>
> >> I also updated oa.html as "Manchester Ontology Browser" sadly has been
> >> decommissioned.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So please also update:
> >>
> >> oa.html
> >> oa.owl
> >> oa.ttl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 May 2014 08:58, Stian Soiland-Reyes
> >> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>> No, but I can try to make one today.
> >>>
> >>> I'll paste the context from the spec into the top and check that it is
> >>> complete.
> >>>
> >>> On 1 May 2014 15:43, "Robert Sanderson" <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> There was some discussion last year about the context resolution.  If
> it's
> >>>> possible to simply put the context document at that URL would be
> fantastic.
> >>>> The previous discussion was that contexts should not live there, only
> >>>> ontologies.  The solution was to have an ontology document in JSON-LD
> with
> >>>> the context embedded, on the grounds that JSON-LD processors will
> ignore the
> >>>> rest of the document.
> >>>>
> >>>> Which we didn't get around to doing, apologies!
> >>>>
> >>>> Stian, do you have a convenient transformation for the ontology into
> >>>> JSON-LD?
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jérémie Astori <jeremie@w3.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Ivan and Stian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As the webmaster, I not responsible for content placed outside of TR.
> >>>>> Also, I am not aware of any change on this URIs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jérémie
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 01/05/14 05:20, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ah, my apologies, I did not spot the trailing /!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The oa/ with a slash is not meant to work and is just an
> >>>>>> implementation detail - and from there the relative links get
> broken.
> >>>>>> (As you see the namespace is http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> About the JSON-LD context, I guess we would have to check the
> >>>>>> archives.  There was some back and forth if a context would be
> allowed
> >>>>>> in the /ns/ folder or not (and I think the conclusion was that it
> >>>>>> was). Perhaps we simply forgot once the agreement was reached..?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/publishing.html Figure
> 5.1.1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> shows the JSON-LD context embedded in the HTML.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Robert,  I guess that is the context which should be under
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and also under
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?  Should we ask the webmaster to deploy that?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 1 May 2014 09:59, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am not sure what should be the "official" URI, the CG has to
> tell me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> However
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> works (without the trailing '/'!) and displays the content of
> oa.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This one also works:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.ttl
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> also works. It seems that things have been installed without the
> >>>>>>> separate oa/ directory.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You guys should tell me which one should be done; it may have been
> that
> >>>>>>> somebody (probably me) did it wrong at some point. I just do not
> remember
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ivan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 01 May 2014, at 10:01 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
> >>>>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I am thought those contexts should have worked.. but now I am not
> >>>>>>>> sure.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Something has gone strange with the whole OA namespace.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/ also  looks a bit odd -  all the
> styling is
> >>>>>>>> gone!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/oa.ttl  gives the HTML rather than the
> Turtle,
> >>>>>>>> same for oa.rdf.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> w3c Webmaster - any idea what has changed? Something with
> htaccess or
> >>>>>>>> web server setup?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 30 April 2014 16:07, Jacco van Ossenbruggen
> >>>>>>>> <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What is the best url to use for the json-ld context document for
> Open
> >>>>>>>>> Annotation applications?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The url advertised in the current specs does not resolve:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Nor does the versionless
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ??
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jacco
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
> >>>>>>>> School of Computer Science
> >>>>>>>> The University of Manchester
> >>>>>>>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
> >>>>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----
> >>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
> >>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> >>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> >>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
> >>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
> >>>>>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Rob Sanderson
> >>>> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
> >>>> Digital Library Systems and Services
> >>>> Stanford, CA 94305
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
> >> School of Computer Science
> >> The University of Manchester
> >> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
> >
> >
> > ----
> > Ivan Herman, W3C
> > Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> > mobile: +31-641044153
> > GPG: 0x343F1A3D
> > FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
> School of Computer Science
> The University of Manchester
> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>



-- 
Rob Sanderson
Technology Collaboration Facilitator
Digital Library Systems and Services
Stanford, CA 94305