Re: JSON-LD context for open annotations?

Stian,

I have updated the jsonld file and pushed up to the server. Please test it...

Ivan

On 06 May 2014, at 11:15 , Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

> Ah, great. I have added it to oa.jsonld on https://github.com/stain/oa/
> 
> Ivan - would you be able to pull in the last change (8a7d4da) and push
> the magic button? We are forever grateful! :)
> 
> 
> On 6 May 2014 10:01, Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> One thing to add before publishing (sorry!) is an entry in the context for
>> dc:language please.
>> We missed it in the context, and it came up recently with the IDPF work as
>> being necessary.
>> 
>> The reference for use is here:
>> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/core.html#BodyEmbed
>> and thus
>>   {"language" : "dc:language"}
>> should be part of the context document.
>> 
>> The fault is mine entirely for missing this.  Would be great to fix, at
>> least in the machine readable document :)
>> 
>> Thanks Stian, Ivan!
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great!
>>> 
>>> Not sure if I have the authority! Robert?
>>> 
>>> On 2 May 2014 14:58, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>>>> I have everything set on my machine; give me the word and I push it to
>>>> the server...
>>>> 
>>>> Ivan
>>>> 
>>>> On 02 May 2014, at 14:28 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You were right, I HAD done it earlier.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now checked and updated
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://github.com/stain/oa/blob/master/oa.jsonld
>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/stain/oa/master/oa.jsonld
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Should we deploy it? I suggest, now that it is also the ontology, to
>>>>> deploy it as:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.jsonld  (Content-Type: application/ld+json)
>>>>> 
>>>>> with redirects from
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json  (307)
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json  (308)
>>>>> 
>>>>> and content-negotiatiatable from
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/ld+json )
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/json
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note: I also updated oa.html/oa.owl/oa.ttl as there was the wrong the
>>>>> label for oa:styleClass:  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.html#d4e384
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also updated oa.html as "Manchester Ontology Browser" sadly has been
>>>>> decommissioned.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So please also update:
>>>>> 
>>>>> oa.html
>>>>> oa.owl
>>>>> oa.ttl
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 May 2014 08:58, Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> No, but I can try to make one today.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll paste the context from the spec into the top and check that it is
>>>>>> complete.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 May 2014 15:43, "Robert Sanderson" <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There was some discussion last year about the context resolution.  If
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>> possible to simply put the context document at that URL would be
>>>>>>> fantastic.
>>>>>>> The previous discussion was that contexts should not live there, only
>>>>>>> ontologies.  The solution was to have an ontology document in JSON-LD
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the context embedded, on the grounds that JSON-LD processors will
>>>>>>> ignore the
>>>>>>> rest of the document.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Which we didn't get around to doing, apologies!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Stian, do you have a convenient transformation for the ontology into
>>>>>>> JSON-LD?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jérémie Astori <jeremie@w3.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Ivan and Stian,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> As the webmaster, I not responsible for content placed outside of
>>>>>>>> TR.
>>>>>>>> Also, I am not aware of any change on this URIs.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jérémie
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 01/05/14 05:20, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ah, my apologies, I did not spot the trailing /!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The oa/ with a slash is not meant to work and is just an
>>>>>>>>> implementation detail - and from there the relative links get
>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>> (As you see the namespace is http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> About the JSON-LD context, I guess we would have to check the
>>>>>>>>> archives.  There was some back and forth if a context would be
>>>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>>>> in the /ns/ folder or not (and I think the conclusion was that it
>>>>>>>>> was). Perhaps we simply forgot once the agreement was reached..?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/publishing.html Figure
>>>>>>>>> 5.1.1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> shows the JSON-LD context embedded in the HTML.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Robert,  I guess that is the context which should be under
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> and also under
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ?  Should we ask the webmaster to deploy that?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 1 May 2014 09:59, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure what should be the "official" URI, the CG has to
>>>>>>>>>> tell me.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> However
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> works (without the trailing '/'!) and displays the content of
>>>>>>>>>> oa.html
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This one also works:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.ttl
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> also works. It seems that things have been installed without the
>>>>>>>>>> separate oa/ directory.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You guys should tell me which one should be done; it may have been
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> somebody (probably me) did it wrong at some point. I just do not
>>>>>>>>>> remember
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 01 May 2014, at 10:01 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>>>>>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I am thought those contexts should have worked.. but now I am not
>>>>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Something has gone strange with the whole OA namespace.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/ also  looks a bit odd -  all the styling
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> gone!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/oa.ttl  gives the HTML rather than the
>>>>>>>>>>> Turtle,
>>>>>>>>>>> same for oa.rdf.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> w3c Webmaster - any idea what has changed? Something with
>>>>>>>>>>> htaccess or
>>>>>>>>>>> web server setup?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30 April 2014 16:07, Jacco van Ossenbruggen
>>>>>>>>>>> <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the best url to use for the json-ld context document for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>>>>> Annotation applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The url advertised in the current specs does not resolve:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nor does the versionless
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ??
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacco
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>>>>>>>>>>> School of Computer Science
>>>>>>>>>>> The University of Manchester
>>>>>>>>>>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Rob Sanderson
>>>>>>> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
>>>>>>> Digital Library Systems and Services
>>>>>>> Stanford, CA 94305
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>>>>> School of Computer Science
>>>>> The University of Manchester
>>>>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>>> School of Computer Science
>>> The University of Manchester
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Rob Sanderson
>> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
>> Digital Library Systems and Services
>> Stanford, CA 94305
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
> School of Computer Science
> The University of Manchester
> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
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