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Re: JSON-LD context for open annotations?

From: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 09:54:37 +0100
Message-ID: <CAPRnXtmNwC4bDn7z7Y_utFff9-sACP=dJvCw7ZaKqeWFQnuTxw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>, Jacco van Osenbruggen <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl>, public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
Great!

Not sure if I have the authority! Robert?

On 2 May 2014 14:58, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
> I have everything set on my machine; give me the word and I push it to the server...
>
> Ivan
>
> On 02 May 2014, at 14:28 , Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> You were right, I HAD done it earlier.
>>
>>
>> Now checked and updated
>>
>> https://github.com/stain/oa/blob/master/oa.jsonld
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/stain/oa/master/oa.jsonld
>>
>>
>> Should we deploy it? I suggest, now that it is also the ontology, to
>> deploy it as:
>>
>>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.jsonld  (Content-Type: application/ld+json)
>>
>> with redirects from
>>
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json  (307)
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json  (308)
>>
>> and content-negotiatiatable from
>>
>>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/ld+json )
>>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/json
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>> Note: I also updated oa.html/oa.owl/oa.ttl as there was the wrong the
>> label for oa:styleClass:  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.html#d4e384
>>
>> I also updated oa.html as "Manchester Ontology Browser" sadly has been
>> decommissioned.
>>
>>
>>
>> So please also update:
>>
>> oa.html
>> oa.owl
>> oa.ttl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2 May 2014 08:58, Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> No, but I can try to make one today.
>>>
>>> I'll paste the context from the spec into the top and check that it is
>>> complete.
>>>
>>> On 1 May 2014 15:43, "Robert Sanderson" <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> There was some discussion last year about the context resolution.  If it's
>>>> possible to simply put the context document at that URL would be fantastic.
>>>> The previous discussion was that contexts should not live there, only
>>>> ontologies.  The solution was to have an ontology document in JSON-LD with
>>>> the context embedded, on the grounds that JSON-LD processors will ignore the
>>>> rest of the document.
>>>>
>>>> Which we didn't get around to doing, apologies!
>>>>
>>>> Stian, do you have a convenient transformation for the ontology into
>>>> JSON-LD?
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jérémie Astori <jeremie@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ivan and Stian,
>>>>>
>>>>> As the webmaster, I not responsible for content placed outside of TR.
>>>>> Also, I am not aware of any change on this URIs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jérémie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/05/14 05:20, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, my apologies, I did not spot the trailing /!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The oa/ with a slash is not meant to work and is just an
>>>>>> implementation detail - and from there the relative links get broken.
>>>>>> (As you see the namespace is http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About the JSON-LD context, I guess we would have to check the
>>>>>> archives.  There was some back and forth if a context would be allowed
>>>>>> in the /ns/ folder or not (and I think the conclusion was that it
>>>>>> was). Perhaps we simply forgot once the agreement was reached..?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/publishing.html Figure 5.1.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> shows the JSON-LD context embedded in the HTML.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert,  I guess that is the context which should be under
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and also under
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?  Should we ask the webmaster to deploy that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 May 2014 09:59, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure what should be the "official" URI, the CG has to tell me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> works (without the trailing '/'!) and displays the content of oa.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This one also works:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.ttl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> also works. It seems that things have been installed without the
>>>>>>> separate oa/ directory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You guys should tell me which one should be done; it may have been that
>>>>>>> somebody (probably me) did it wrong at some point. I just do not remember
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01 May 2014, at 10:01 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am thought those contexts should have worked.. but now I am not
>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something has gone strange with the whole OA namespace.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/ also  looks a bit odd -  all the styling is
>>>>>>>> gone!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/oa.ttl  gives the HTML rather than the Turtle,
>>>>>>>> same for oa.rdf.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> w3c Webmaster - any idea what has changed? Something with htaccess or
>>>>>>>> web server setup?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30 April 2014 16:07, Jacco van Ossenbruggen
>>>>>>>> <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the best url to use for the json-ld context document for Open
>>>>>>>>> Annotation applications?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The url advertised in the current specs does not resolve:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nor does the versionless
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jacco
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>>>>>>>> School of Computer Science
>>>>>>>> The University of Manchester
>>>>>>>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
>>>>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
>>>>>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rob Sanderson
>>>> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
>>>> Digital Library Systems and Services
>>>> Stanford, CA 94305
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>> School of Computer Science
>> The University of Manchester
>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>
>
> ----
> Ivan Herman, W3C
> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
> mobile: +31-641044153
> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
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>
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Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
School of Computer Science
The University of Manchester
http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
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