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Re: JSON-LD context for open annotations?

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 15:42:08 +0200
Cc: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>, Jacco van Osenbruggen <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl>, public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
Message-Id: <F2453613-3A12-47E8-99B3-978CD36202FC@w3.org>
To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>

On 02 May 2014, at 14:28 , Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

> You were right, I HAD done it earlier.
> 
> 
> Now checked and updated
> 
> https://github.com/stain/oa/blob/master/oa.jsonld
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/stain/oa/master/oa.jsonld
> 
> 
> Should we deploy it? I suggest, now that it is also the ontology, to
> deploy it as:
> 
>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.jsonld  (Content-Type: application/ld+json)
> 
> with redirects from
> 
> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json  (307)
> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json  (308)
> 
> and content-negotiatiatable from
> 
>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/ld+json )
>  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/json
> 
> ?
> 
> 
> Note: I also updated oa.html/oa.owl/oa.ttl as there was the wrong the
> label for oa:styleClass:  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.html#d4e384
> 
> I also updated oa.html as "Manchester Ontology Browser" sadly has been
> decommissioned.
> 
> 
> 
> So please also update:
> 
> oa.html
> oa.owl
> oa.ttl

Where do I find these sources to update?

Ivan

> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 May 2014 08:58, Stian Soiland-Reyes
> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>> No, but I can try to make one today.
>> 
>> I'll paste the context from the spec into the top and check that it is
>> complete.
>> 
>> On 1 May 2014 15:43, "Robert Sanderson" <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> There was some discussion last year about the context resolution.  If it's
>>> possible to simply put the context document at that URL would be fantastic.
>>> The previous discussion was that contexts should not live there, only
>>> ontologies.  The solution was to have an ontology document in JSON-LD with
>>> the context embedded, on the grounds that JSON-LD processors will ignore the
>>> rest of the document.
>>> 
>>> Which we didn't get around to doing, apologies!
>>> 
>>> Stian, do you have a convenient transformation for the ontology into
>>> JSON-LD?
>>> 
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jérémie Astori <jeremie@w3.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Ivan and Stian,
>>>> 
>>>> As the webmaster, I not responsible for content placed outside of TR.
>>>> Also, I am not aware of any change on this URIs.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Jérémie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 01/05/14 05:20, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ah, my apologies, I did not spot the trailing /!
>>>>> 
>>>>> The oa/ with a slash is not meant to work and is just an
>>>>> implementation detail - and from there the relative links get broken.
>>>>> (As you see the namespace is http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> About the JSON-LD context, I guess we would have to check the
>>>>> archives.  There was some back and forth if a context would be allowed
>>>>> in the /ns/ folder or not (and I think the conclusion was that it
>>>>> was). Perhaps we simply forgot once the agreement was reached..?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/publishing.html Figure 5.1.1
>>>>> 
>>>>> shows the JSON-LD context embedded in the HTML.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert,  I guess that is the context which should be under
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>> 
>>>>> and also under
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?  Should we ask the webmaster to deploy that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 May 2014 09:59, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am not sure what should be the "official" URI, the CG has to tell me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> works (without the trailing '/'!) and displays the content of oa.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This one also works:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.ttl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> also works. It seems that things have been installed without the
>>>>>> separate oa/ directory.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You guys should tell me which one should be done; it may have been that
>>>>>> somebody (probably me) did it wrong at some point. I just do not remember
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 01 May 2014, at 10:01 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am thought those contexts should have worked.. but now I am not
>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Something has gone strange with the whole OA namespace.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/ also  looks a bit odd -  all the styling is
>>>>>>> gone!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/oa.ttl  gives the HTML rather than the Turtle,
>>>>>>> same for oa.rdf.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> w3c Webmaster - any idea what has changed? Something with htaccess or
>>>>>>> web server setup?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30 April 2014 16:07, Jacco van Ossenbruggen
>>>>>>> <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What is the best url to use for the json-ld context document for Open
>>>>>>>> Annotation applications?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The url advertised in the current specs does not resolve:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nor does the versionless
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jacco
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>>>>>>> School of Computer Science
>>>>>>> The University of Manchester
>>>>>>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
>>>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
>>>>>> mobile: +31-641044153
>>>>>> GPG: 0x343F1A3D
>>>>>> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Rob Sanderson
>>> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
>>> Digital Library Systems and Services
>>> Stanford, CA 94305
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
> School of Computer Science
> The University of Manchester
> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718


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