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Re: JSON-LD context for open annotations?

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 15:43:18 +0200
Cc: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>, Jacco van Osenbruggen <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl>, public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
Message-Id: <A54BBB1C-7468-4759-98E8-431460CEE150@w3.org>
To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
I am sorry, stupid question. I see them on your github.

Ivan
On 02 May 2014, at 15:42 , Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:

> 
> On 02 May 2014, at 14:28 , Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> You were right, I HAD done it earlier.
>> 
>> 
>> Now checked and updated
>> 
>> https://github.com/stain/oa/blob/master/oa.jsonld
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/stain/oa/master/oa.jsonld
>> 
>> 
>> Should we deploy it? I suggest, now that it is also the ontology, to
>> deploy it as:
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.jsonld  (Content-Type: application/ld+json)
>> 
>> with redirects from
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json  (307)
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json  (308)
>> 
>> and content-negotiatiatable from
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/ld+json )
>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa  (Accept: application/json
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> 
>> Note: I also updated oa.html/oa.owl/oa.ttl as there was the wrong the
>> label for oa:styleClass:  http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.html#d4e384
>> 
>> I also updated oa.html as "Manchester Ontology Browser" sadly has been
>> decommissioned.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So please also update:
>> 
>> oa.html
>> oa.owl
>> oa.ttl
> 
> Where do I find these sources to update?
> 
> Ivan
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 May 2014 08:58, Stian Soiland-Reyes
>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>> No, but I can try to make one today.
>>> 
>>> I'll paste the context from the spec into the top and check that it is
>>> complete.
>>> 
>>> On 1 May 2014 15:43, "Robert Sanderson" <azaroth42@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> There was some discussion last year about the context resolution.  If it's
>>>> possible to simply put the context document at that URL would be fantastic.
>>>> The previous discussion was that contexts should not live there, only
>>>> ontologies.  The solution was to have an ontology document in JSON-LD with
>>>> the context embedded, on the grounds that JSON-LD processors will ignore the
>>>> rest of the document.
>>>> 
>>>> Which we didn't get around to doing, apologies!
>>>> 
>>>> Stian, do you have a convenient transformation for the ontology into
>>>> JSON-LD?
>>>> 
>>>> Rob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Jérémie Astori <jeremie@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Ivan and Stian,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As the webmaster, I not responsible for content placed outside of TR.
>>>>> Also, I am not aware of any change on this URIs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jérémie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 01/05/14 05:20, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, my apologies, I did not spot the trailing /!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The oa/ with a slash is not meant to work and is just an
>>>>>> implementation detail - and from there the relative links get broken.
>>>>>> (As you see the namespace is http://www.w3.org/ns/oa#)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> About the JSON-LD context, I guess we would have to check the
>>>>>> archives.  There was some back and forth if a context would be allowed
>>>>>> in the /ns/ folder or not (and I think the conclusion was that it
>>>>>> was). Perhaps we simply forgot once the agreement was reached..?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.openannotation.org/spec/core/publishing.html Figure 5.1.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> shows the JSON-LD context embedded in the HTML.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Robert,  I guess that is the context which should be under
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and also under
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?  Should we ask the webmaster to deploy that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1 May 2014 09:59, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am not sure what should be the "official" URI, the CG has to tell me.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> works (without the trailing '/'!) and displays the content of oa.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This one also works:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa.ttl
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> also works. It seems that things have been installed without the
>>>>>>> separate oa/ directory.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You guys should tell me which one should be done; it may have been that
>>>>>>> somebody (probably me) did it wrong at some point. I just do not remember
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 01 May 2014, at 10:01 , Stian Soiland-Reyes
>>>>>>> <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am thought those contexts should have worked.. but now I am not
>>>>>>>> sure.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Something has gone strange with the whole OA namespace.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/ also  looks a bit odd -  all the styling is
>>>>>>>> gone!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa/oa.ttl  gives the HTML rather than the Turtle,
>>>>>>>> same for oa.rdf.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> w3c Webmaster - any idea what has changed? Something with htaccess or
>>>>>>>> web server setup?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 30 April 2014 16:07, Jacco van Ossenbruggen
>>>>>>>> <Jacco.van.Ossenbruggen@cwi.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What is the best url to use for the json-ld context document for Open
>>>>>>>>> Annotation applications?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The url advertised in the current specs does not resolve:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context-20130208.json
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Nor does the versionless
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.w3.org/ns/oa-context.json
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ??
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jacco
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>>>>>>>> School of Computer Science
>>>>>>>> The University of Manchester
>>>>>>>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/
>>>>>>>> http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>> Ivan Herman, W3C
>>>>>>> Digital Publishing Activity Lead
>>>>>>> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Rob Sanderson
>>>> Technology Collaboration Facilitator
>>>> Digital Library Systems and Services
>>>> Stanford, CA 94305
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Stian Soiland-Reyes, myGrid team
>> School of Computer Science
>> The University of Manchester
>> http://soiland-reyes.com/stian/work/ http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718
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