- From: Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
- Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 18:32:31 +0200
- To: public-ontolex@w3.org
- Message-ID: <9482f27a-011a-4ed0-d64e-13f76412f922@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
Thanks a lot for this effort, Christian!
Philipp.
Am 05.04.20 um 10:49 schrieb Christian Chiarcos:
> Dear all,
>
> the OntoLex page is now live *and approved*:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoLex. Feel free to extend and
> translate ;) Thanks to all for the additional pointers. Special thanks
> to Ilan for running Kernerman Dictionary News and for reporting on
> OntoLex several times in this context. In the end, this was decisive
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:1292simon#OntoLex_page),
> because the editors required demonstration of relevance by "news
> articles". I guess this was by mistake on their side anyway (see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#News_organizations
> vs.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Scholarship),
> but thanks to KDN, we have something they did accept.
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> Am .12.2019, 16:44 Uhr, schrieb Christian Chiarcos
> <christian.chiarcos@web.de>:
>
> Hi John, dear all,
>
> thank you, added to the OntoLex draft (now under
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:OntoLex) and resubmitted. (Can
> be further edited.)
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> Am .12.2019, 09:09 Uhr, schrieb John P. McCrae <john@mccr.ae>:
>
> Hi Christian,
>
> Here are some good links:
>
> A couple of books that reference the model:
> https://books.google.at/books?id=ej5qDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=%22ontolex+lemon%22&source=bl&ots=uxVR-dcazZ&sig=ACfU3U10WV53UlTR1lLBJp0tIGGsQoCxpw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjbwJrfz6rmAhWdURUIHbqPBTM4ChDoATAIegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=%22ontolex%20lemon%22&f=false
> https://books.google.at/books?id=ahWZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=%22ontolex+lemon%22&source=bl&ots=gN4uqWlFW1&sig=ACfU3U2m5izzYu6uo7G4qMbTr584iJEFAw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjR7uHmz6rmAhU6XRUIHQBgByc4FBDoATAIegQICRAB#v=onepage&q=%22ontolex%20lemon%22&f=false
>
> Press releases:
> https://www.clarin.eu/blog/clarin-it-presents-lexo-where-lexicography-meets-semantic-web
> https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/lexidma/charter.php
> http://aims.fao.org/activity/blog/version-402-vocbench-was-released-august-2018
>
> European Technical Specification:
> https://ec.europa.eu/isa2/sites/isa/files/pmki.wp2_.d2.3_v1.0.pdf
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 21:39, Christian Chiarcos
> <christian.chiarcos@web.de <mailto:christian.chiarcos@web.de>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> has been reviewed, no complaints about spam or copyright
> anymore, just about relevance, hence rejected. Summary:
>
> This submission is not adequately supported byreliable
> sources
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RS>./Reliable/sources
> are required so that information can beverified
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:V>. If you need
> help with referencing, please seeReferencing for beginners
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:REFB>andCiting
> sources
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources>.
> This submission's references do not show that the
> subjectqualifies for a Wikipedia article
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability>—that
> is, they do not show/significant/coverage (not just
> passing mentions) about the subject
> in/published/,/reliable/
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources>,/secondary/
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research#Secondary>sources
> that are/independent
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_and_using_independent_sources>/of
> the subject. Before any resubmission, additional
> references meeting these criteria should be added
> (seetechnical help
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Referencing_for_beginners#Inserting_a_reference>and
> learn aboutmistakes to avoid
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Common_sourcing_mistakes_(notability)>when
> addressing this issue). If no additional references exist,
> the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
> The comment the reviewer left was:
> Are there some news articles that suggest this is notable
> beyond W3C?
> I guess we can work that out more easily than the earlier
> complaints. Not exactly wrt. "news articles" in any strict
> sense of the word, but with respect to coverage in
> scientific communication. @Everyone: Please add your
> favorite papers (own or other) on OntoLex to the draft
> page
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chiarcos/OntoLex). I
> guess everybody can edit this.
>
> Wrt. news articles: Have there been any press releases on
> Pret-a-LLOD, Nexus Linguarum or other projects that
> mention OntoLex? This would be the closest thing to a
> "news article" I can think of.
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
> Am .12.2019, 02:18 Uhr, schrieb Christian Chiarcos
> <christian.chiarcos@web.de
> <mailto:christian.chiarcos@web.de>>:
>
> Am .12.2019, 21:13 Uhr, schrieb Manuel Fiorelli
> <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com
> <mailto:manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com>>:
>
> Dear Christian
>
> When I tried to access the article, Wikipedia told
> that it was deleted recently.
>
>
> G11 ("spam"): We had that problem with creating a LLOD
> page, as well. But back then, we got a discussion, at
> least.
> G12 ("copyright"): The copyright infringement pertains
> to the OntoLex-core diagram. I put in the file
> documentation that this is a trivial visualization of
> commonly available information (it is a conventional
> class diagram, in the end), and used the corresponding
> tag but that wasn't convincing, it seems.
>
> A revision without details on the W3C CG, without the
> diagram and without any quotes now under
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chiarcos/OntoLex.
> Submitted for revision by a Wikipedia editor. May take
> 4 months, but can be edited until then.
>
> I guess it would help if people express the need for
> such a page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles
>
> Best,
> Christian
>
>
> Looking at the message reporting on the deletion,
> I understood that it was motives by a combination
> of two issues: promotional nature of the article
> and inclusion of copyrighted work.
>
> Not sure what we should do to solve the problem.
>
> Regards
> Manuel
>
>
> Il ven 6 dic 2019, 19:56 Christian Chiarcos
> <christian.chiarcos@web.de
> <mailto:christian.chiarcos@web.de>> ha scritto:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I just created
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoLex. Please
> check and
> improve!
>
> BTW: Copyright of the OntoLex-Lemon core
> diagram seems to be restricted. Please
> confirm.
>
> Thanks,
> Christian
> --
> Christian Chiarcos
> Applied Computational Linguistics
> Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universität Frankfurt a. M.
> 60054 Frankfurt am Main, Germany
>
> office: Robert-Mayer-Str. 10, #401b
> mail: chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
> <mailto:chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
> web: http://acoli.cs.uni-frankfurt.de
> tel: +49-(0)69-798-22463
> fax: +49-(0)69-798-28931
>
>
> Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 21:13 Uhr schrieb Manuel
> Fiorelli <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com
> <mailto:manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com>>:
>
> Dear Christian
>
> When I tried to access the article, Wikipedia told
> that it was deleted recently.
>
> Looking at the message reporting on the deletion,
> I understood that it was motives by a combination
> of two issues: promotional nature of the article
> and inclusion of copyrighted work.
>
> Not sure what we should do to solve the problem.
>
> Regards
> Manuel
>
>
> Il ven 6 dic 2019, 19:56 Christian Chiarcos
> <christian.chiarcos@web.de
> <mailto:christian.chiarcos@web.de>> ha scritto:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I just created
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OntoLex. Please
> check and
> improve!
>
> BTW: Copyright of the OntoLex-Lemon core
> diagram seems to be restricted. Please
> confirm.
>
> Thanks,
> Christian
> --
> Christian Chiarcos
> Applied Computational Linguistics
> Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universität Frankfurt a. M.
> 60054 Frankfurt am Main, Germany
>
> office: Robert-Mayer-Str. 10, #401b
> mail: chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
> <mailto:chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
> web: http://acoli.cs.uni-frankfurt.de
> tel: +49-(0)69-798-22463
> fax: +49-(0)69-798-28931
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Prof. Dr. Christian Chiarcos
> Applied Computational Linguistics
> Johann Wolfgang Goethe Universität Frankfurt a. M.
> 60054 Frankfurt am Main, Germany
>
> office: Robert-Mayer-Str. 11-15, #107
> mail: chiarcos@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
> web: http://acoli.cs.uni-frankfurt.de
> tel: +49-(0)69-798-22463
> fax: +49-(0)69-798-28334
--
Prof. Dr. Philipp Cimiano
AG Semantic Computing
Exzellenzcluster für Cognitive Interaction Technology (CITEC)
Universität Bielefeld
Tel: +49 521 106 12249
Fax: +49 521 106 6560
Mail: cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de
Office CITEC-2.307
Universitätsstr. 21-25
33615 Bielefeld, NRW
Germany
Received on Sunday, 5 April 2020 16:35:25 UTC